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MLPPP between two MT Routers using 3xSDSL and a Housing ISP

Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:56 pm

Hi@all

I am not new to networking, but new to mikrotik products. Is it possible to take 2 RB493 Routers (one at the office and one in a housing center) and connect them over 3 different SDSL Lines using MLPPP ? The goal of this is one virtual "big pipe" between our office and the internet using different SDSL Lines. Our housing ISP will get 2 provider independet Class C Networks for us. We need this solution because there is no fiber connection available at our office building to get the needed bandwidh.

Has anybody done such a setup before with MT Routers ?
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Re: MLPPP between two MT Routers using 3xSDSL and a Housing ISP

Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:21 am

MLPPP is something that has to be done on a single device, it also needs to be supported by the ISP selling you the links.


[ISP]---x3 dsl lines---[x3 adsl modems in bridge mode]---[Mikrotik with MLPPP interface setup]
 
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Re: MLPPP between two MT Routers using 3xSDSL and a Housing ISP

Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:32 am

Yes I am sure, how else would you run the pppoe interface on the mikrotik.
 
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Re: MLPPP between two MT Routers using 3xSDSL and a Housing ISP

Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:18 pm

Well, theoretically you could build 3 EoIP Tunnels between the Routers, then let the PPPoE Client use the three EoIP Tunnels as interfaces.
The default route would be set so that all the traffic to the internet is first run through the Mikrotik in the housing center...

But, MLPPP is not yet supported in the PPPoE Server Implementation that RouterOS uses... which kind of sucks, because we are using MLPPP to combine Links and always have to use Cisco Routers as PPPoE access concentrators.
 
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Re: MLPPP between two MT Routers using 3xSDSL and a Housing ISP

Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:42 am

Use 3 EoIP tunnels between the two MikroTiks,

Us Bonding in balance-rr mode to use all three links simultaneously.
 
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Re: MLPPP between two MT Routers using 3xSDSL and a Housing ISP

Sun May 03, 2009 12:36 pm

We have used the balanced rr (round robin) mode, but it has problems.
If there is any differance in latency between the links (or maybe bigger and smaller packets at some point) then packets become disorded at egress from the routers. This we noticed causes two main problems.
1) Many voip providers / solutions do not cope with disorded packets on the audio stream, so audio is scrambled. 9/10 times voip is usless on these links.
2) While TCP stacks in most systems (like windows) can cope with disordered packets, they slow down to a snails pace. surfing and downloads become very slow for the end user.