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Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:19 pm
by normis
As some of you have noticed, we managed to release v4.0beta4 without the changes that are mentioned in the changelog. This fixes this problem and has all the promised changes:

http://www.mikrotik.com/download/temp/u ... 0beta4.npk
http://www.mikrotik.com/download/temp/u ... mipsbe.npk
http://www.mikrotik.com/download/temp/u ... mipsle.npk
http://www.mikrotik.com/download/temp/u ... a4-ppc.npk

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:34 pm
by asus
1st to say thanks :) Brilliant work...

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:22 am
by xezen
and on x86?

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:25 am
by userman

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:27 am
by xezen
thanks for the help

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:53 am
by imaljko4
Does this version of user manager support paypall?

because in the version 4.0 beta3, i wasn't able to find the option to configure paypal.

Thanks

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:59 am
by userman
Profile support has just been added and can therefore be unstable. Payment support will be added, when profiles and accounting will be tested to work stable enough. Hoping to see PayPal in 4.0beta5 would be very optimistic.

Besides, major changes to payments are planned. Account balance will be stored for each user, multiple profiles will be available for purchase with one payment. And it will be possible for user to transfer money to his/her User Manager account and spend it later.

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:09 am
by imaljko4
I am using a R52n wireless card, and i want to use paypal on UM.

In order to do this, can i downgrade routerOS to 3.27?

I mean does routerOS 3.27 suport the R52n card?


Thank you

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:50 am
by normis
1. v3.27 doesn't support 802.11n cards
2. v3.27 also doesn't support new User Manager :)

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:10 pm
by imaljko4
1. v3.27 doesn't support 802.11n cards
2. v3.27 also doesn't support new User Manager :)

so its not possible to use paypal with a R52n card?

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:16 pm
by normis
correct :)

but it will be fixed soon, paypal support in v4beta is coming

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:46 am
by eneimi
1. v3.27 doesn't support 802.11n cards
2. v3.27 also doesn't support new User Manager :)
Does this mean laptops connected to APs running ROS 3.27 can't authenticate with UM 4.04b on another router?

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:16 am
by normis
if you have two RouterOS machines - that's your solution.

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:12 pm
by eneimi
This wasn't the case with the first UM 4.04b, but with this fixed package, after i log out of hotspot on another router running ROS 3.27 it takes a while to update in UM but eventually it removes my login from A sessions, but not from A users.
I have limited shared users to 1 so that when this happens, i cant log in again. I try rebooting both routers and it still lists me under A users. I have to delete the user completely and recreate it before i can login.
Any idea why this is?

Also after i assign a profile to a user, 'Actual Profile' fails to show start time, end time or time left, but only specifies uptime limit and rate limit. This allows users go beyond the 'validity' period.
Anything on this as well?

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:56 pm
by userman
We will check your reported issue with user staying active even when the session is closed.

About the Actual Profile start time, end time and time left. By default profile is started only when the user logs in, only then start time, end time and time left are set. If you specify "Starts at = now" for Profile, then it starts right after assignment. In that case start time and end time should be displayed correctly.

Anyway, Actual Profile fields are only used for displaying some info in web page. Even if they are not calculated right, they do not affect the usage/disconnection of the user. But if you find a bug, when these values are not calculated right, please report it here, describing how you get to this situation with incorrect behavior!

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:49 pm
by eneimi
We will check your reported issue with user staying active even when the session is closed.
Much appreciated.
By default profile is started only when the user logs in, only then start time, end time and time left are set. If you specify "Starts at = now" for Profile, then it starts right after assignment.
I thought that would be the case but i forgot to mention that even after users have logged in and out repeatedly, the values don't change. I still get:
Start time: No profile
End time: Not set
Time left: 0s
Anyway, Actual Profile fields are only used for displaying some info in web page. Even if they are not calculated right, they do not affect the usage/disconnection of the user.
That would still be acceptable, but its just that it does disconnect them, but they are able to log in again and they have their allotted time still available all over.

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:26 am
by userman
I thought that would be the case but i forgot to mention that even after users have logged in and out repeatedly, the values don't change. I still get:
Start time: No profile
End time: Not set
Time left: 0s
Have you assigned any profile to the user?

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:08 am
by asus
I made 4 profile 64kbps 128kbps 256kbps 512kbps of 1year.

if i assign single profile to them then also they get 4-5 different profiles.

check files comment also

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:35 am
by userman
I made 4 profile 64kbps 128kbps 256kbps 512kbps of 1year.
if i assign single profile to them then also they get 4-5 different profiles.
check files comment also
I did not quite understand the problem. You assign multiple profiles to user. And what's wrong with that?

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:39 am
by userman
but its just that it does disconnect them, but they are able to log in again and they have their allotted time still available all over.
I cannot reproduce this error. I installed a setup, where HotSpot uses User Manager, created user with unlimited profile and "Shared Users=1" in UM. Then I can log in/off into/from the HotSpot using my laptop, everything works fine: active sessions appear and disappear as do Active users. Active sessions/users are refreshed only once every 5 minutes in web interface. So, check, if A sessions/users do change, when you log out and log in again into the UM web interface.

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:31 am
by asus
when we add new user we can assign 1 profile only but when i open their user detail i see 4-5 profiles assigned to them.

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:13 pm
by userman
when we add new user we can assign 1 profile only but when i open their user detail i see 4-5 profiles assigned to them.
I can guess where the problem is. Have you added bunch of users, then deleted some of them, and then created some new ones, which had these multiple profiles? Could be, that old profiles are not deleted from DB and are assigned to the new users.

If this is the problem, it will be fixed in next release.

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:44 pm
by asus
no all users are new & i'm adding them 1 by 1

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:03 pm
by userman
Could you make a backup of UM DB and send it to support at mikrotik dot com with mentioning "Please forward this message to Girts"?

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:31 pm
by asus
Could you make a backup of UM DB and send it to support at mikrotik dot com with mentioning "Please forward this message to Girts"?
NO :P





Mailed!

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:37 pm
by userman
I found the bug - it is related to using UM Web interface on multiple browsers simultaneously. It will be fixed in next release. Until it, you could either use only one browser at a time or delete duplicate profiles assigned to user. Actually you can use multiple browsers, until you do not open User Add/Edit/BatchAdd form.

Thank you for collaboration!

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:39 pm
by userman
Besides, we found another issue using your backup - it takes a long time for User Manager to initialize on router reboot. We will improve this start-up time.

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:30 pm
by dolphinik1
What is this message?

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:59 am
by userman
This is an internal error meaning, there was an incorrect try to update table rows. Could you describe action sequence, which leads to this error?

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:11 pm
by sboselli
Can I install this package in ROS 4rc1 ?

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:58 pm
by dolf
It looks like the same userman that is in V3 is back in v4.0. I was excited about all the new features in the beta version.

dolf

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:53 am
by normis

Re: Fixed User Manager v4.0beta4 package

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:01 am
by mynetcsp
new usermanager cant not load old database