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ROS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e2-SOLVED
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:52 pm
by ta2mzl
Hi everybody;
I load RouterOS 5.0beta1 to CF card and tried on PC Engines's alix6e2. Result is not good.
RouterOs is not starting in 10-20 minutes and staying as follow (RouterOS 4.6 is working with same way);
PC Engines ALIX.2 v0.99h
640 KB Base Memory
261120 KB Extended Memory
01F0 Master 848A SanDisk SDCFB-128
Phys C/H/S 980/8/32 Log C/H/S 980/8/32
SYSLINUX 3.84 2009-12-18 EBIOS Copyright (C) 1994-2009 H. Peter Anvin et al
Loading linux...................
Loading initrd.rgz...............ready.
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:36 pm
by ta2mzl
Hi;
Does anybody have answer for that problem?
thanks.
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:30 pm
by marlow
I upgraded an ALIX.6e2 from 4.6 to 5.0beta1 without any problems using ftp+reboot.
So something must have gone wrong in your install/upgrade.
/M
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:42 am
by ta2mzl
Hi marlow and thanks for your answer;
I tried two different way to upload to ROS v5 beta;
I have no any licence yet but I want to work on Level number 0 (FREE) mode first.
first I installed v4.6 via netinstall and board is working properly with that version, after I select the downloaded v5 files with my mouse, and drag it to the Files menu but winbox is freezing and connection dropping. It can not allow to copy files in to "file list".
second I uploaded v5 files to "file list" via File Zilla FTP , I can upload all v5 files (21 files totals) properly and I am starting reboot procedure but board is starting with v4.6 again.
May be my problem is licence. ROS is confusing without licence?
But that is my first experience with any x86 board for ROS , I want to be sure every things ok before install licence.
thanks.
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:37 pm
by marlow
May be my problem is licence. ROS is confusing without licence?
But that is my first experience with any x86 board for ROS , I want to be sure every things ok before install licence.
Is there any specific reason, why you want to test 5.0beta1 so ? It is a beta, still has bugs and should not be used in production.
What features are in 5.0beta1, that you need ?
/M
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:24 am
by ta2mzl
Hi marlow;
I can say yes because; I am working on 3G bridge/router and 4.6 has bug for static route and that version needs fix for that problem. MT guys know that and they fixed that problem in v5.0beta1
Latest version is working properly with my 3G card. That's why I want to load that version.
v5.0beta1 is working without any problem on RB411U but I could not success on alix6e2 yet.
I need help from any proffesional ROS users.
thanks.
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:41 pm
by avantwireless
Note my message about WRAP boards. There is a bug in the 5beta1 boot for these archs... But it's not your fault or a license issue. Tried 5 ways from sunday to get it to boot but it will not. Somewhere there is a bad piece of code...
Robert
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:49 pm
by ta2mzl
thanks Avantwireless;
I hope MT guys will fix that problem ASAP.
I hope they are reading that
regards.
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:24 am
by normis
if there is a problem why do only some of you have it?
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:08 am
by ta2mzl
Just I am waiting useful answer from MT site.
We are trying to use ROS, are we making mistake to do that ?
are we making mistake to become Mikrotik user?
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:17 am
by normis
if you have a problem with RouterOS, send us detailed report to support. We can't help just by guessing what the problem is. Send us console output and full information on what you did and what happened.
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:51 am
by ta2mzl
I did already , Normis.
thanks.
Ticket#2010021166000511
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:36 pm
by normis
Alix 1d, Alix 6b, Alix 2c works fine. We just tested
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:44 pm
by ta2mzl
My boards are ALIX.6E2/LX800 256MB.
What is your CF card brand and size? I tried 3 different CF card. v4.6 is working but v5 can not start of all.
first try- It can not allow to copy v5beta1 files in to "file list".
second try - I can upload all v5 files (21 files totals) properly and I am starting reboot procedure but board is starting with v4.6 again.
thanks Normis.
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:47 pm
by normis
in that case, there is no problem! you confused us.
first check log and see the reason.
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:55 pm
by ta2mzl
Normis , Could you give me more clue?
which log (name) do I need to add to logging and see ?
thanks?
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:56 pm
by normis
don't add any, if there is problem, it will be there already.
if after reboot still have old version, you probably uploaded files into the wrong place. make sure they are at the TOP of the files list, not in some folder.
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:14 pm
by marlow
When I upgraded my ALIX 6e2 I used the package with all packages in one, not the zip file with the individual ones.
You might want to try that, instead of uploading the 21 files.
/M
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:50 pm
by avantwireless
Normis,
How many systems did you test with. We sucessfully upgraded 4 systems and had 2 fail. That's why you see some who have no problem. It seems to be on a board by board basis. I sent in a supout.rif from 4.6 of a board that failed. Let me know if that helps. This is a thorny problem...
ALSO please fix the 4.6 netinstall on the download page!!!!!!! Can't believe it's still broken a day after being reported...
robert
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:20 pm
by ta2mzl
don't add any, if there is problem, it will be there already.
if after reboot still have old version, you probably uploaded files into the wrong place. make sure they are at the TOP of the files list, not in some folder.
Hi Normis;
When I connect to board via FTP Client I am sending version files to root ( also I have one packet for v5beta1 and I tried with this instead of 21 files)
and log output as follow
Jan/01/2000 00:16:45 system,info log rule changed by admin
Jan/01/2000 00:16:48 system,info log rule changed by admin
Jan/01/2000 00:17:17 system,info,account user admin logged in from 192.168.1.11 via ftp
Jan/01/2000 00:17:32 system,info,account user admin logged in from 192.168.1.11 via ftp
Jan/01/2000 00:17:56 system,info,account user admin logged out from 192.168.1.11 via winbox
Jan/01/2000 00:17:56 system,info,account user admin logged out from 192.168.1.11 via ftp
Jan/01/2000 00:17:56 system,info,account user admin logged out from 192.168.1.11 via ftp
Jan/01/2000 00:17:58 kvm,error no hardware virtualization support
Jan/01/2000 00:18:39 system,info verified routeros-x86-5.0beta1.npk
Jan/01/2000 00:18:39 system,info installed routeros-x86-5.0beta1
Jan/01/2000 00:18:39 system,info router rebooted
Jan/01/2000 00:18:42 kvm,error no hardware virtualization support
Jan/01/2000 00:20:15 system,info,account user admin logged in from 192.168.1.11 via winbox
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:11 am
by avantwireless
4.6 Netinstall is now fixed! YAHOO!
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:50 am
by normis
nobody touched the netinstall files. must have been your proxy cache or something
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:12 am
by avantwireless
We tried downloading it from 6 of the mirrors. From 5 different systems... 1 XP 1 Vista 1 Win7 and 2 linux systems... All different networks... hmm yeah must have been a proxy cache.... right...
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:34 am
by normis
netinstall is not affected by the mirror selection, it's always in one site
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:47 am
by ta2mzl
Normis hi;
is there any idea for my problem?
I put log file lines to my message, you can see that; v5 is installing but board is still working with v4.6. (via ftp)
when I try other alternative to load ROS ; If I load pure v5 to CF car, It can not boot with v5, just staying.
thanks.
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:35 pm
by ta2mzl
No any improve, please help.
Normis;
could you give me your CF card detail (size, type(mlc,slc), brand) ?
thanks.
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:46 pm
by marlow
SanDisc 128 MB is what I used successfully.
/M
Re: RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:44 pm
by ta2mzl
yess, I have same in use.
RouterOS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e2-SO
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:37 pm
by ta2mzl
Hi everyone who follow that subject;
I told that to MT guys but they didn't believe me!
yes there is a problem as below but why, don't know;
if you are using
netinstall-5.0beta1 to load v5beta1 to CF card for alix6e2 it can not start ROS v5beta1 on board.
just waiting as below;
PC Engines ALIX.2 v0.99h
640 KB Base Memory
261120 KB Extended Memory
01F0 Master 848A SanDisk SDCFB-128
Phys C/H/S 980/8/32 Log C/H/S 980/8/32
SYSLINUX 3.84 2009-12-18 EBIOS Copyright (C) 1994-2009 H. Peter Anvin et al
Loading linux...................
Loading initrd.rgz...............ready.
if you are using
netinstall-4.6 to load v5beta1 to CF card for alix6e2. it can start ROS v5beta1 on board.
PC Engines ALIX.2 v0.99h
640 KB Base Memory
261120 KB Extended Memory
01F0 Master 848A SanDisk SDCFB-128
Phys C/H/S 980/8/32 Log C/H/S 980/8/32
SYSLINUX 2.08 2003-12-12 Copyright (C) 1994-2003 H. Peter Anvin
Loading linux....................
Loading initrd.rgz..............
Ready.
after 7-10 minutes;
PC Engines ALIX.2 v0.99h
640 KB Base Memory
261120 KB Extended Memory
01F0 Master 848A SanDisk SDCFB-128
Phys C/H/S 980/8/32 Log C/H/S 980/8/32
Loading system with initrd
MikroTik 5.0beta1
MikroTik Login:
Password:
Re: ROS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e2-SOL
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:22 am
by marlow
Well, that looks like a problem with netinstall, not routeros 5.0beta1, but good, that you got it working.
/M
Re: ROS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e2-SOL
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:36 am
by ta2mzl
yes marlow, I got it and working now.
thank you for all help
Re: ROS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e2-SOL
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:46 am
by avantwireless
It happens with upgrades to. There must be a problem in the bootloader...
Re: ROS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e2-SOL
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:12 am
by parnican
I can confirm same issue on WRAP board. If Netinstall 5.1 used CPU was extremely HOT, it looks like locked system.
Loading linux....................
Loading initrd.rgz..............Ready. an nothing else!
As soon as used Netinstall 4.9 works great!
Re: ROS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e2-SOL
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:19 pm
by ta2mzl
Hi Pernican;
I have same problem from the very beginning; If you use Netinstall 5.0beta1 or Netinstall 5.0beta1 for load any ROS to CF card, ALIX series boards are not starting!
I told that to Mikrotik when Netinstall 5.0beta1 delivered but Netinstall 5.0beta1 issued same problem.
I thing we can not use ALIX board with Netinstall 5.x
regards.