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Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:07 pm
by omidkosari
Unfortunately Mikrotik Radius Client does not pass some radius attributes to radius server . They described in following documents and supported by Cisco
http://cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4t/1 ... cidtg.html and Juniper
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/j ... l#id-55548 http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/j ... l-vsa.html etc.
Here is the RFC
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc4679.html
http://odysseus.ieee.org/cs.html?url=ht ... &n=1&la=en
Also in some Dslams it named "PPPoE Intermediate Agent" , TR-101 (WT-101)
How can i pass "Access-Node-Identifier" , "Agent-Circuit-Id" , "Agent-Remote-Id" to radius server ?
Re: DSL Forum Vendor-Specific RADIUS Attributes
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:55 pm
by omidkosari
Anyone interested ?
It is very useful . for example with "Agent-Circuit-Id" you can understand which user connected to which port of dslam . in large deployments with centralized RADIUS server it adds more flexibility to network .
Re: DSL Forum Vendor-Specific RADIUS Attributes
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:18 am
by omidkosari
Mikrotik stuff ?
I have sent Ticket#2010062166000111 but there is no reply . Please reply here or there .
Re: DSL Forum Vendor-Specific RADIUS Attributes
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:40 am
by Chupaka
"Agent-Circuit-Id" and "Agent-Remote-Id" (Option 82) works fine with DHCP+RADIUS, but in case of PPPoE, your router should do insertion, not just resending... so you should wait for support response =)
Re: DSL Forum Vendor-Specific RADIUS Attributes
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:45 am
by omidkosari
Isn't a way to do that job manually ? for example a routeros script or something else . maybe a trick ?
Re: DSL Forum Vendor-Specific RADIUS Attributes PPPoE option
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:13 pm
by omidkosari
Hello,
Thank you for the feature request.
DHCP and PPP implementations are completely different.
We will see what we can do for the requested feature.
Regards,
Sergejs
May this feature available in 4.11 ?
Please do it if possible . i think it is the only way to really prevent bad behaviors like mac spoofing in PPPoE based DSL networks .
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:21 am
by omidkosari
Mikrotik staff ?
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:27 am
by sergejs
We are researching the particular option, we will se what we can do.
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:52 am
by omidkosari
Will included in next version ?
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... 88#p218588
Option specifics are exlained in RFC
http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/rfc/rfc3495.txt
From RFC
+------+--------+----------------+----------------+---+----------------+
| 122 | Length | Sub-option 1 | Sub-option 2 |-----| Sub-option n |
+------+--------+----------------+----------------+---+----------------+
+-------------------+--------+------------------------+
| Sub-option Code | Length | Sub-option information |
+-------------------+--------+------------------------+
You need to write this information as hexadecimal value into dhcp options configuration
Why don't implement a general way like dhcp hexadecimal options ?
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:49 pm
by omidkosari
Unfortunately this feature does not included in 4.11 . It is very simple to implement and very useful . when it will be supported ?
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:34 am
by fmenard123
Are we speaking of PPPoE intermediate Agent ?
See my article
http://www.brisenet.net/www.brisenet.ne ... ESALE.html
F.
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:45 am
by omidkosari
Yes . exactly .
Thanks for good article . maybe mikrotik stuff read your article and find why this feature is so important .
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:26 pm
by janisk
is that part of some standard. We really do not like introduce some tags, that are not supported by anything else for something that has strict standard set.
you cal look at
http://www.iana.org/assignments/pppoe-parameters to see, if any of these tags, that are not vendor specific would fit for requested functionality.
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:14 am
by omidkosari
what about bellow one ?
261 (0x0105) Vendor-Specific See the reference [RFC2516]
in my previous there are a lot of useful links about standards .
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:11 pm
by smile__2006
Hi, is it possible to do these things:
1. MT as dhcp server, use radius=yes
2. freeradius on a FreeBSD
3. mysql (on t5he FreeBSD too)
MT dhcp send to freeradius data from option 82 (switch, port number, vlan)
I need to dhcp option 60 (vendor class id) send from MT dhcp via use radius=yes to FreeBSD freeradius.....
The task is identify MS windows clients (MSFT 5.0) and other clients.....
What I can do to achieve this)
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:30 pm
by omidkosari
What if we pay for developing this feature ?
We need this PPPoE option 82 . it is a must . we could negotiate about fee and payment .
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:44 pm
by Chupaka
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:40 pm
by omidkosari
I tried your suggestion and mikrotik reply is
Hello,
We do not offer such service.
Probably we will add this function in the future.
Regards,
Sergejs
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:16 am
by prcek
I am sorry, maybe I am completely wrong, but why the dslam doesn´t act as PPPoE concentrator itself? Why do you need RouterOS as PPPoE concentrator for DSLAM? Or is this any kind of PC-based DSLAM?
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:01 am
by omidkosari
few dslams brands can act as pppoe concentrator and their implementations are very simple and buggy . We want routeros for pppoe concentrator because it is routeros
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:46 pm
by prcek
Thanks for explication.
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:59 am
by felipesilveira
I need this too, I have some dslams and we need to control (put some rules) about where the user can be connected (port for example)
We use freeradius and I have only enabled the pppoe-intermediate-agent from DSLAM but the PPPoE server from Mikrotik does not pass the information to FreeRadius
This option is too important for us, when mikrotiks developers will add it on the RouterOS?
Thanks in advance!
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:09 pm
by ViREnG
is this feature added to RouterOS/MikroTik ?
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:14 am
by ViREnG
no any new news on new year ?
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:06 pm
by omidkosari
We are researching the particular option, we will se what we can do.
Long researching sergejs
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:53 pm
by ViREnG
3 Years for researching :-" ...
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:13 am
by camlost
Most of modern D-Link (even D-Link!) Switches support pppoe circuit-id insertion. And of course most of other vendors.
We want mikrotik only to retranslate circuit-id options to radius server.
What about implementation this feature in RouterOS v6?
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:38 pm
by omidkosari
See following post
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... 33#p364765
Does this feature request implemented in this version ?
PPPoE option 82 or ticket number Ticket#2010062166000111
No, currently option 82 support is added to DHCP Relay only.
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:00 am
by camlost
It's sadly ((
Believe it will be implemented in ROS 7
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:34 pm
by nz_monkey
I hope so. This is a must have feature!
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:25 am
by ViREnG
ROS 6.0 realesed but still Deep researching ... .
this is one of feature that will force us to use the cisco devices.
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:24 am
by ViREnG
Not yet ?? ROS 6.1 and 6.2 Released ...
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:47 pm
by omidkosari
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 11:06 am
by ViREnG
BUMP
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:50 pm
by Maksel
Very, very much needed support pppoe circuit-id. For transmission to the Radius.
I beg do, please.
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:22 am
by ViREnG
BUMP
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:41 pm
by Maksel
Question to the developers MikroTik.
How to buy licenses Level 6 that adds support pppoe circuit-id ?
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:56 am
by ViREnG
5 years researching ...
no any news !!?
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:34 am
by Maksel
Напрашивается несколкьо выводов.
1. Уволился разработчик pppoe модуля - на нового бютжет по зарплате не расчитан.
2. Кто-то дал много денег компании Mikrotik, чтобы не лезли на рынок, к большим игрокам, т.к. данная функция повышает интерес у провайдеров к данному продукту.
3. Большие игроки пока по хорошему "попросили" некоторые функции не реализовывать.
4. Но скорей всего Микротик - разрабатывает те функции которые спрашивают чаще всего.
Посчитали, что функция "pppoe circuit-id" привлечет максимум - до 100 провайдеров, те купят по 3-6 лицензий - сумма не большая против того, что можно заработать на Roadboard.
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:41 am
by Maksel
Да к стати есть проэкт accel-pppd (
http://sourceforge.net/projects/accel-ppp/) разрабатывается одним человеком. Там данныя фукция реализовання одной из первых.
И когда микротик дал понять что PPPoE option 82 можно не ждать - вдолгих поисках нашелся accel-pppd.
Как PPPoE и IPoE - лучнее решение на сейчас - и главное бесплатно!!!.
Для мелких провадйров - супер.
А для круптых - так себе.
Вот к примеру нам нужен был 3й сервер PPPoE. ОС планировался mikrotik - выделили деньги, но тут подвернулся accel-pppd. После изучения, настройки и испытаний - деньги что планировали на лицензию mikrotik - ушли на отдых, пиво.....
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:20 am
by chechito
5 years researching ...
no any news !!?
its like vlan id for radius on user manager, we have to use freeradius
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:04 am
by ViREnG
5 years researching ...
no any news !!?
its like vlan id for radius on user manager, we have to use freeradius
can't be use that , refer to first posts of this topic .
Напрашивается несколкьо выводов.
1. Уволился разработчик pppoe модуля - на нового бютжет по зарплате не расчитан.
2. Кто-то дал много денег компании Mikrotik, чтобы не лезли на рынок, к большим игрокам, т.к. данная функция повышает интерес у провайдеров к данному продукту.
3. Большие игроки пока по хорошему "попросили" некоторые функции не реализовывать.
4. Но скорей всего Микротик - разрабатывает те функции которые спрашивают чаще всего.
Посчитали, что функция "pppoe circuit-id" привлечет максимум - до 100 провайдеров, те купят по 3-6 лицензий - сумма не большая против того, что можно заработать на Roadboard.
Adding a feature like this not so hard , if they think may be conflict with another parts of RouterOS , can add it like a option of PPPoE Server if enable it enable this feature on that PPPOE server , Easily !
@Maksel , translate Russian to English via google translate is bad .
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:26 am
by omidkosari
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=101948
*) ppp - added new option under "ppp aaa" - "use-circuit-id-in-nas-port-id";
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:43 am
by ViREnG
this option added , but because of Dynamic Queues cant be changed after 6.32 my radius can't use dynamic rate , I must use 6.31 without new PPP option
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:08 pm
by andriys
this option added , but because of Dynamic Queues cant be changed after 6.32
You should use CoA instead; starting from 6.33 it should now be supported as well:
*) ppp - added CoA support to PPPoE, PPTP & L2TP (Mikrotik-Recv-Limit, Mikrotik-Xmit-Limit, Mikrotik-Rate-Limit, Ascend-Data-Rate, Ascend-XMit-Rate, Session-Timeout);
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:52 am
by EgyCom
Does any one tested 6.35rc19
It should support option 82
*) pppoe - added rfc4679 support;
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:37 am
by omidkosari
In version 6.33
*) ppp - added new option under "ppp aaa" - "use-circuit-id-in-nas-port-id";
Now i have version 6.33.3 and use-circuit-id-in-nas-port-id works fine . I did not test newer versions and other parts of rfc4679
Re: Feature Request: PPPoE option 82
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:27 pm
by asy
Now i have version 6.33.3 and use-circuit-id-in-nas-port-id works fine .
Where does RouterOS get this data?
I see the data from RouterOS directly. For exapmle NAS-Port-Id = "vlan21". Is it possible to get data from the switch where the clients are connected? A switch has "pppoe intermediate-agent" option.