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synchronization between Nv2 APs

Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:29 am

Any idea when this may be implemented?
 
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Re: synchronization between Nv2 APs

Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:00 am

Hey MT guys you have any idea of an ETA on this? I sent an email also to support with no response.

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Re: synchronization between Nv2 APs

Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:25 am

Nv2 already gives you lots of throughput with small latency. What other improvements do you personally need? I mean improvements as in results, not features because of the marketing slogans.
 
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Re: synchronization between Nv2 APs

Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:38 am

Nv2 already gives you lots of throughput with small latency. What other improvements do you personally need? I mean improvements as in results, not features because of the marketing slogans.
Normis,

First of all thanks for the reply.

Well that particular phrase was taken from your WIKI page as stuff that is not yet complete. I assume that it means allowing to NV2 AP's to connect to each other similar to wds slave mode for use in mesh networks.

I have been testing NV2 package in 4.13 on a portion of our network for the last few days. 8 sectors and 90+ clients and while the performance of NV2 can be quite amazing it just doesn't seem to hold up for more than 4-6 hours before it starts to fall apart. Signal strengths drop by 5-10db and ccq goes from 80%+ down into the single digits sometimes. Even after disabling NV2 it doesn't help and the only fix is to reinstall the standard wireless package on the AP then the signals and ccq instantly come back to normal. I have made a few Spouts but I am not really sure what description to give you guys other than it isn't working. It is hard for me to do much with it at this point as I am doing my testing after 12:00 AM as to not disrupt service. Last light I felt very good about it and ran test after test till about 4:00AM so I decided to leave NV2 running. Well when I got up today and checked on everything it was as I described above and things didn't get back to normal until I disabled the NV2 package and went back with the standard wireless package.

I would really like this to work as I think it is going to be something that will have to be done over the next six months for us to remain competitive with land based services. Anyway I would love to help you guys with testing some of this stuff but the Mikrotik support channel is very awkward and limiting with regards to communications from end user to development. If you have another way to do this besides the forums or the support email please send me a pm and let me know because like I said I really want this to work.

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Re: synchronization between Nv2 APs

Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:04 pm

Nv2 already gives you lots of throughput with small latency. What other improvements do you personally need? I mean improvements as in results, not features because of the marketing slogans.
You have said yourself that NV2 doesn't play nice with others, it wants the entire playground to itself.

That's fine, but I need it to play nice with its own brothers and sisters.

For starters it would be nice to have a sync feature for all Routerboards with more than one slot.

This would make the 433 with 3 R52H more reliable and less likely to cause self interference. It would be nice to choose which cards are synchronized as my 2.4GHz AP is not interfering with my 5GHz feed, but that isn't that big of a deal.
 
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Re: synchronization between Nv2 APs

Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:31 pm

I am beginning to wonder if some of the issues I am seeing aren't related to this. Because the units I have been testing with are multi card running 10mhz channels. I am thinking that maybe the TDMA along with the ghost channels you get when running 5/10 mhz channels are causing self interference. Either that or the NV2 package is much more susceptible to outside interference than the standard wireless package. Either way it is for sure an issue on the AP side because I can leave the nv2 package installed on the clients but downgrade the AP to the standard wireless package and all works well.
For starters it would be nice to have a sync feature for all Routerboards with more than one slot.

This would make the 433 with 3 R52H more reliable and less likely to cause self interference. It would be nice to choose which cards are synchronized as my 2.4GHz AP is not interfering with my 5GHz feed, but that isn't that big of a deal.
 
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Re: synchronization between Nv2 APs

Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:38 am

For those who uses v4.13 with wireless-nv2 package - please upgrade to RouterOS v4.14 with wireless-nv2 package.
 
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Re: synchronization between Nv2 APs

Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:04 pm

Nv2 already gives you lots of throughput with small latency. What other improvements do you personally need? I mean improvements as in results, not features because of the marketing slogans.
Just a quick statement regarding this commment...

First - I'll say that I've been very impressed with Mikrotik's improvement over the years and I am very pleased with the progress being made. I've tried the "other stuff" and I'll agree that it's mostly marketing and not all results. Second - don't take this personally Normis (it's for everyone :D ).

That being said - The truth is that the "other stuff" is exploding on the global market because they are doing lots of things right. Sure Mikrotik performs better . But performance isn't everything. There are countless examples of dead technology companies that hold crown of "Best Technology". Simply having the "Best" performance - isn't enough.

There was a time when http://www.staros.com was one of the main competitors to Mikrotik - As Mikrotik started to win the performance battle - the general tone of the support on the forums there got more and more negative. Eventually, it almost sounded like the customer was a nuisance - They were unmistakably annoyed by the barrage of questions like "When will this be fixed" or "When's that coming out" or "When can we expect this!". It was ridiculous how arrogant they were in their responses to questions. (Long story short - we replaced all their products with Mikrotik's)

There was a reason those customers were constantly asking those questions - Because they're just as nervous as you are the they're heavily invested in something thats not "the best".

To get to the point - I would highly encourage a pep talk at Mikrotik headquarters. You guys and gals are doing a great job all in all - Ultimately the best thing you can do right now is bend over backwards - further than you ever have before - to take care of the people that have shown faith in your company by investing in your products. You may not be the best at marketing - you may not even have the best wireless technology according to some people - but If you could set yourselves apart by having the "Best" customer service I have no doubt you'll thrive alongside "the other guys".

You can start by nipping these sorts of negative responses in the bud. I don't care if you get a million questions just like the OP's. You should be thanking him for asking - after all he/she is showing a valid interest in committing to your product line. I would bet there was a day when you were hungry for customers and people to show interest - now you're leaning to the "full of yourself" category.


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