+1, DDMi SFP support should be better option with ROSI think it would be a good idea to make DOM statistics available if supported by the transceiver, and to make them available via SNMP.
we already have a product with SFP slot - RB2011LS. It is coming later this month. The question of this topic is specifically about SFP modules.If this is a feature that you are thinking about implementing, it would be nice if we could have a SFP slot so that we could use any that we wanted dending on the current installation needs.
I do not understand, how SFP module features (distance, etc.) affect Routerboard or RouterOS? Or is this just a statistical survey?Which SFP module features would be most important for you?
Distance, power, mode, wavelength, channels, voltage etc. For example:
why not?Does Mikrotik have plans to produce own SFP modules?
excuse me for nagging, but then you could ask also "what color of patch cables would be most important for you?"We are just looking for people's opinion on SFP modules. Why overthink this?
price, compatibilityWhich SFP module features would be most important for you?
Distance, power, mode, wavelength, channels, voltage etc. For example:
Which SFP module features would be most important for you?
Distance, power, mode, wavelength, channels, voltage etc. For example:
http://www.finisar.com/sites/default/fi ... 0Guide.pdf
I mean exactly SFP, not any other standard.
please wait a few days for official status update, next week we will have newsSo what is the status of the RB2011LS?
RB2011LS supports any 1.25G SFP transceivers that is within the SFF Committee specifications for SFP Transceivers. We have not tested any 100Mbit modules yet, but - If that transceiver is made according to that specification and don't have specific vendor lock on it - it should work without any problems.Are 100 mbps SFP modules compatible with RB2011LS-IN? This is really important for us and would allow to purchase RB2011LS in quantity (we use 100baseBX connections).
So if the SFP has 155M written on it, it is unlikely that it is going to work? Are there any specific keywords I should look for in SFP specification ?RB2011LS supports any 1.25G SFP transceivers that is within the SFF Committee specifications for SFP Transceivers. We have not tested any 100Mbit modules yet, but - If that transceiver is made according to that specification and don't have specific vendor lock on it - it should work without any problems.Are 100 mbps SFP modules compatible with RB2011LS-IN? This is really important for us and would allow to purchase RB2011LS in quantity (we use 100baseBX connections).
Link speed negotiation is up to transceivers not the cage implementation on the board.
no, actually quite likely. any standard SFP module should work, it's jut that we have not tried one yet, because we concentrated on Gigabit modules. If anyone has such module to test, please report here.it is unlikely
SerDes functionality and therefore linkspeed negotiation usually is the business of the host system, not the optical tranceiver.Link speed negotiation is up to transceivers not the cage implementation on the board.
I disagree - SerDes have nothing to do with the actual link establishment between 2 modules, it kicks in only after. SerDes 8B/10B is the reason why 1,25Gbps SFP only handles 1Gbps of actual trafficSerDes functionality and therefore linkspeed negotiation usually is the business of the host system, not the optical tranceiver.
The SFP MSA doesn't specify any data rates AFAIK. So are you sure about this, any sources for this statement?
1.25 GBps is just the electrical bandwidth of the tranceiver electronics.I disagree - SerDes have nothing to do with the actual link establishment between 2 modules, it kicks in only after. SerDes 8B/10B is the reason why 1,25Gbps SFP only handles 1Gbps of actual traffic
A RJ45 SFP may be a special case, but on Cisco equipment it only handles 10/100 links speeds if the host port you plug it in supports this. Also the SFF MSA doesn't cover RJ45 tranceivers.1) RJ45 modules can be 10/100/1000 or 1000 only if trying to connect to 100Mbps device one will work other will not. Board will remain the same
You can plug them in and they will establish a link, but I doubt this link runs on 10GBps. Its just the SFP which supports a high electrical bandwidth, which isn't used in this case.2) you can plug 10Gbps only SFP+ transceivers on RB2011 and they will establish link and work. board will be able to supply only 1Gbps traffic, but link itself will be 10
Sure they support electrical bandwidths up to 2,63GBps why shouldn't they supprt lower bandwidths.similar to previous -there are optical modules that support whole range 155M~2,63Gbps - my guess they will use some kind of auto-negotiation to establish the link and link speed.
Like^2.
Spend you time an energy to make an RB1200 without TX-Ports and only SFP slots. There is no product with a good price in the market.
Bad luck for 100FX (or any other 100Base) at the moment...Like a previous post, I would like to see some other supported SFP's such as 100FX and 1000SX
FYI the RB2011 DOES NOT support reading of A0h/A2h stats as per SFF-8472.
According to Mikrotik this feature may be added to future products.
does not support Ad-Net SFP155-WDM1310/10
http://www.ad-net.com.tw/index.php?id=294
Is it possible to add support for this SFP?
It is obvious, but what about other named items?it does not support poe-out. that will be fixed
http://www.qca.qualcomm.com/media/produ ... _file1.pdfThe remaining 2 ports feature a standard GMII/RGMII/MII/Serdes interface to
allow connection to a host CPU in PON/xDSL/Cable/Wifi/Fiber routers.
Of course. That`s the human life. If you stop to crying for something, your life will stop, that`s end of your life. We, customers always want more and more. It drives Mikrotik to be more strong and valuable vendor. Btw, our company deployed very large network using some kind of 155mbps SFP. So we can not just change all our node equipment once. So we still need to continue using 155mbps SFP until node equipment upgraded to 1.25Gbps.Even the same game,
all are crying and begging for anything new, then MikroTik is doing do, and after the launch the whole
crowed turns around and is crying for another feature, option and\or functions!
The same procedure as every year.
- At first crying to get SFP ports and support
- Then crying why no 100 MBit\s
- After this crying for 10 GBit\s support but no ones want to pay for the switch fabric inside that must be soldered in
- If this was done by MikroTik, all are crying for 10 GBit\s Ethernet Ports copper based and GEO stacking support.
Like the lemmings, one is turning left and the whole crowed is following into the deep abyss.
Yes, I`m agree with you. Therefor I`m trying to vote for 100mb SFP. But of course final decision will be done by MT guys. They do not make features, what I posted once. I`m trying to increase vote on this feature request. An other hand, it`s very good thing for MT that people always post feature requests. People still want to use MT for wide area in their network. They want to done their demands by MT products. Your case, your life is different from me. You don`t need some features, but maybe I don`t need features, what you want. So please don`t disclaim other`s wishes or don`t try to place your wish before other`s . But I`m agree with you that future OS, future routers will be supported more features and it`s not easy to develop features, such as mine.At last I think really it is not so easy to fit all the needs and serve all the wishes from all customers, but I think also they are on the road and do a fine job, to come nearly to this state.
Hi Dobby, I don`t think your posts are rude. . When I was posting previous posts, I had nice face with smile. So don`t worry, it`s ok. Finally we all love to be customer of Mikrotik.So please accept that I don´t want to blame, kidding, to bother or what ever else you, this was more a try out to
explaining why their is no 100 MBit/s SFP support and not that this is not needed!
I am more afraid of having 10 GBit/s support, because this equipment should not so cheap to build and is perhaps more wished and then not bought, like the 100 MBit/s. Not that you thing I am not able to use it
For our clients:Which SFP module features would be most important for you?
This SFP works with rb2011LS ?For our clients:Which SFP module features would be most important for you?
Digitus DN-81103 http://datasheet.digitus.info/en/4016032305705.html
155 Mbps
TX 1310 nm
RX 1550 nm
20 km
3,3V
Transmission Power: Minimum -15 dBm, Maximum -8 dBm
Sensitivity Receiving Power: Minimum -32 dBm
And for us (in order to be able to test client setups and hardware):
Digitus DN-81104 http://datasheet.digitus.info/en/4016032305712.html
155 Mbps
TX 1550 nm
RX 1310 nm
20 km
3,3V
Transmission Power: Minimum -15 dBm, Maximum -8 dBm
Sensitivity Receiving Power: Minimum -32 dBm
That's really interesting. Can the RB2011UiAS handle the 4.25Gbps transfer rate or is it still restricted to 1Gbps ?Hi,
I'd like to report that I successfully tested Finisar FTLF8524P2BNV with Gigabit Ethernet on RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN.
http://www.finisar.com/sites/default/fi ... 20RevJ.pdf
It can be added to http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Supported_Hardware
From what I understand, it's 1.25Gbps max in Ethernet mode, 4.25Gbps is Fiber Channel.That's really interesting. Can the RB2011UiAS handle the 4.25Gbps transfer rate or is it still restricted to 1Gbps ?Hi,
I'd like to report that I successfully tested Finisar FTLF8524P2BNV with Gigabit Ethernet on RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN.
http://www.finisar.com/sites/default/fi ... 20RevJ.pdf
It can be added to http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Supported_Hardware
Please tell me about which sfp module did you use? I need it deperately.I am testing a pair of bidi SFPs. I get a link and also get traffic across the link (how may or reliable it is, I do not know), but these RB2011LS-INs are at loss as status of a sfp1 interface does always state:
Auto Negotiation: done
Rate: Unknown
Full duplex is unchecked
Some other items:
PoE Out Current: 0mA
Does sfp1 has a PoE support?
Also, [Blink] button in Winbox does not blink [USR] led of the device.
Running ROS v5.19.