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As much as I love The Dude, it's clearly no longer a focus for Mikrotik. While other vendors continue to develop their management and monitoring tools, The Dude is still stuck in Windows land, doesn't work on PPC (>1 year and counting without a fix), and the versions that do work under RouterOS have major issues and limitations (like the web interface not working).

Mikrotik should come clean and admit that they are no longer developing the Dude, and allow everyone to move on to other alternatives rather than keeping everyone hanging in the wings hoping in vain for something magical to happen.

Answer for my last bug report in dude 4.0 beta3 on RB433UAH - 26-04-2012.

Thank you very much for the report. We will try to fix both of them.
Both problems are actual for Dude intstalled on RouterBOARD.

Answer for my last bug report in dude 4.0 beta3 on RB433UAH - 26-04-2012.

Thank you very much for the report. We will try to fix both of them.
Both problems are actual for Dude intstalled on RouterBOARD.

Don't hold your breath, v4b3 was released in March 2011 and hasn't been updated since, as I said >1 year despite all of the various bugs and issues it has (e.g. not working on PPC).

And when I said "windows interface not working" I meant "web interface not working".

Well you get what you pay for! I for one would love to see more features added to it. SNMP write among them. More support for non-mikrotik hardware such as Canopy would be awesome! We'd even pay for the software at that point. But for now it gets the job done and cost much much less than the Motorola/Cambium option!

There was a thread about alternatives and only one that seems close in functionality is intermapper (not free).

I wish there were an official statement if The Dude were dead or not. I think it is a great product and no alternatives free or otherwise can compete because of the RouterOS integration. We are 100% MikroTik shop (router-wise) and have come to know and love the Dude over the past years. Really if we could just get a 4.X PPC package that worked I would be happy. Most of the edge routers that we deploy are PPC (RB1100/RB1200) and we would like to deploy the Dude package on these routers to use as an Agent.

Please let us know if The Dude is abandoned or not so we know whether or not to abandon hope.

I concur, at least let us know.. I was at a Mikrotik Training and about 30% of us used Dude but were all wanting to know whether to keep using or change..

I concur, at least let us know.. I was at a Mikrotik Training and about 30% of us used Dude but were all wanting to know whether to keep using or change..

It is working for us. So why change a running system.

We plan to make a new Dude release at end of Q3, we plan to fix the known issues and introduce some new features. The Dude is alive.

We plan to make a new Dude release at end of Q3

Q3 - July, August, September.
At 1-st September we can wait a release of v4.

We will try to send all bugs we know to the support.

Thank you very much normis !

Thanks Normis.

You've just made alot of "dudes" really happy. I might even book myself a nasty week in Sydney to attend the mum and celebrate!

YAY!

It's really good to know that The dude is alive. It's an awesome software, i really hope for a new version.

thanks god

dude still alive.

i can't wait

This thread is dead. Move on.

For those of us using the dude now for many years and still finding ways to make it do bigger and better things are tired of the whining about how the free 'beta' software doesn't work how they want it to work. Go buy one that does what you want it to do and quit cluttering up the forums, or post how well those other ones run on PPC.

It Lives \;D/

I'm will be waiting Dude for RouterBOARD

We plan to make a new Dude release at end of Q3, we plan to fix the known issues and introduce some new features. The Dude is alive.

Thumbs up, hope everything is working as expected and planed. Looking forward to try out a new dude version / beta!

We plan to make a new Dude release at end of Q3, we plan to fix the known issues and introduce some new features. The Dude is alive.

normis, do you have any plans to share beta version for public testing ?

We plan to make a new Dude release at end of Q3, we plan to fix the known issues and introduce some new features. The Dude is alive.

normis, do you have any plans to share beta version for public testing ?

Yeah, I'd love to play with something new.

Dude, 4 beta 3 and a bit

A new beta version for testing. Would be Christmas and my birthday - all at once.

Can we still expect a new The Dude sometime this year?

Please, don't let The Dude die. It is a really useful tool for a network administrator.

It seems all efforts at Mikrotik are aimed to Router OS v6 and CCR. After the stable release of v6.0 we should start pressuring again about The Dude.

It seems all efforts at Mikrotik are aimed to Router OS v6 and CCR. After the stable release of v6.0 we should start pressuring again about The Dude.

We plan to make a new Dude release at end of Q3, we plan to fix the known issues and introduce some new features. The Dude is alive.

Is it ? or you forget dude ?

Q3 of what year?

Is the Dude being developed or not?

I have run into a functional issue using SNMP where Dude only supports DES encryption for SNMPv3 and the device I need to monitor only uses AES.

What is Mikrotik's issue with developing Dude? Lots of people would pay for it to keep development going. It's a great product, but without further development it really will be dead. Like others who have posted it has been working just fine for us - up until now.

Mike

normis, please ! don´t let our beloved Dude die !

We plan to make a new Dude release at end of Q3, we plan to fix the known issues and introduce some new features. The Dude is alive.

Normis posted on Fri May 11, 2012 12:32 pm

and its now oct 2013...

I get the feeling this post is being ignored...

I'm sorry but there are no news about the Dude now. We are overloaded with new product support, and we don't have a dedicated Dude programmer at the moment. We have not forgotten about the Dude, and a new version is still planned someday.

So hire a new programmer. We are giving You incredibile amount of money for RB and You are not willing to give only the fraction of that money to another guy in mtk team. Very sad...

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I'm sorry but there are no news about the Dude now. We are overloaded with new product support, and we don't have a dedicated Dude programmer at the moment. We have not forgotten about the Dude, and a new version is still planned someday.

Could you just hire a new programmer for the Dude only?

I'm sorry but there are no news about the Dude now. We are overloaded with new product support, and we don't have a dedicated Dude programmer at the moment. We have not forgotten about the Dude, and a new version is still planned someday.

I've read this last night and still can't believe that this said above is THE reason why something as awesome as The Dude is isn't making any progress for the last 2 years.

I'm sorry but there are no news about the Dude now. We are overloaded with new product support, and we don't have a dedicated Dude programmer at the moment. We have not forgotten about the Dude, and a new version is still planned someday.

I've read this last night and still can't believe that this said above is THE reason why something as awesome as The Dude is isn't making any progress for the last 2 years.

You see that they are short on manpower when you look at nv2. How long it took to work and how long it takes to make progress. And nv2 is a key component of their wireless systems. Dude is for free.

It doesn't matter if they hire a programmer, open source, close source, 3rd party develop. Any thing will bring in more customers except putting off development.

What an incredible problem to have "we have too much work". There are people clamoring for work. Are you not profitable? Do you think for a second if your products were better you would not make more money?

They will gain customers through people who use the dude. They will sell more router boards because of the dude. They will have more people talking about the array of products because the people who looked for a network monitor will find the dude and see how awesome it is. If bugs were fixed users would be praising the dude.

I hate posting this kind of negative stuff. I really really love the product, everyone I have ever shown it to is impressed, I am still impressed even with the array of gotchas but you can't keep this practice up you will lose customers.

Lebowski

It's a joke. Partners organise trainings from MT software and the dude, but MT doesn't make updates.
In that past one user told that we can donate for the dude development - this idea isn't bad for me.

If Mikrotik would provide The Dude source code under NDA I would consider updating it, etc. Just saying....


Robert

Mikrotik つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give The Dude Update.

We would pitch in for a fund to progress Dude Development. Could we get a guarantee of development at a certain level of funding? We would be willing to run the fund as well. Any thoughts Normis?

We would pitch in for a fund to progress Dude Development. Could we get a guarantee of development at a certain level of funding? We would be willing to run the fund as well. Any thoughts Normis?

Ha! Your dreaming. This is the same company that doesn't offered paid support at all and refers you to consultants just in the dark about issues as you are.

The dude really is dead and my advice would be to use something like PRTG for monitoring and alerting and the dude for a nice gui of your network

I would not care about paying. say the price!

Im going to try to reach out to Mikrotik for an agreement, look for a fundraiser in the forums shortly.

Everybody is waiting for a new update. I cant belive that company like a mikrotik, cannot support that unique software. But it is fact past 3 years. Let make it open source and community will upgrade it for free...

I don't get it? why killing a great soft like that? let us maintain it.....or at least pay for it/upgrades.

Everybody is waiting for a new update. I cant belive that company like a mikrotik, cannot support that unique software. But it is fact past 3 years. Let make it open source and community will upgrade it for free...

I suppose that may be Mikrotik lost the sources or some another unwanted obstacles had happen...

Developers of Dude, are you abandone project? If yes - open sources! Your work will not continued, i think.
If not- why it's no new releases? Need money - open account for donations.

yes, ODUDE sounds cool (open dude)

R.I.P. dude.


Maybe Mikrotik lost source...

I think they do :/

I can definitively say The Dude is dead.

I will be getting my own development in place to replace this old and dusty non-supported system.

Not so fast. Some new hope did appear during the MUM.

Not so fast. Some new hope did appear during the MUM.

Normis, more information, please.

Regards,

Not so fast. Some new hope did appear during the MUM.

I would like to see something fruitful to this statement as we all know well that Users have been requesting and complaining for over a year. Why does it take a face to face MUM for something to happen.

The Dude was also made a topic during the South African MUM, to which Mikrotik had no advertised intention to update The Dude.

I think you should understand the level of Confidence in Mikrotik's development in The Dude is lost

MikroTik announced CAPs manager, a wireless access point control system, which, maybe, could be also added to the Dude, and during the process, some bugs could get fixed.

Could... Could... only conditionals. Ok, so what are the conditions?

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It is too early to tell. It depends on many things, first, we need to get CAPs running and public. Maybe we will need to make a separate program, maybe we can use the Dude. I'm sorry, but at this point, I have no specific information.

It is not just as easy as hiring a new person if the people who know the code are busy or have left.
It could also be that Mikrotik considers the Dude should be rewritten at a less hectic time, and only very minor work is acceptable to do now by someone familiar with the code.

Nothing of this needs to be true, just pointing out what could be some reasonable causes for the delay.

Why not opensource The Dude and github it? Looks like MT team has simply no time to manage this free tool. It's not bad if they focus on getting more hardware and bugs squashed in new ROS versions. Opensourcing it should do the job. Could someone from MT team (Normis, Sergejs, anyone else) present such idea to rest of MT team on some sort of meeting and discuss it?

Why not opensource The Dude and github it? Looks like MT team has simply no time to manage this free tool. It's not bad if they focus on getting more hardware and bugs squashed in new ROS versions. Opensourcing it should do the job. Could someone from MT team (Normis, Sergejs, anyone else) present such idea to rest of MT team on some sort of meeting and discuss it?

Already done. We are considering all options.

Then there is a hope Fingers crossed!

Integrate the CAPs to the DUDE and start maintaining it. Dude is a great program. Much better than those paid ones.

Already done. We are considering all options.

This is one of the best news i read on this forum in years. At least there´s hope. We are counting on you normis !

They have been considering for many years. It can continue to infinity. What hope we can have?

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Can't ... hold.. breat...h.....muc...h.........llloooonnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooo

CapsMAN better be awesome, cause it'll take a miracle to save the dude. By miracle I mean acknowledgement and roadmap from Mikrotik rather than rumors. I know from experience if you ignore your customers and keep em in the dark waiting for a explosive announcement when they've been out in the back alley and coffe stands of MUMs looking for crumbs, begging and scratching at the door... that by the time you're ready. They will of moved away..

Sad

Even more sad 6.11 dropped my CCR and 6.10 appears to be stable. So I can't try CapsMAN.. whilst I'm at home I'm reconfiguring my UniFi AP's and installing NetXMS (MT is still doing all the heavy lifting). Don't make the mistake of too little too late. Be open, communicate with your minions and your NOC slaves. We need more than crumbs, we crave meat. Glorious succulent juicy Eye Fillet steak slow cooked over 14 hours in an oven that eats WiFi for breakfast.. Not these crumbs you keep feeding us. FEED US NORMIS. DAMMIT FEED US!

Why not opensource The Dude and github it? Looks like MT team has simply no time to manage this free tool. It's not bad if they focus on getting more hardware and bugs squashed in new ROS versions. Opensourcing it should do the job. Could someone from MT team (Normis, Sergejs, anyone else) present such idea to rest of MT team on some sort of meeting and discuss it?

Already done. We are considering all options.

Already presented? What was decided? Nothing? OPENSOURCE the thing already. On things I would love to do is make it work with other databases (SQL Server and mySQL). That, by itself, would open up a lot of add-ons.

Give a developer one week to go through the code and remove anything proprietary, the release it. Make the first initiative be to clean up the code (if needed). Keep Mikrotik person as a reviewer and give the person 2 hours per week to work on The Dude (review other people's work).

It would be nice to see some sort of feedback or progress.

Until then

R.I.P The Dude.

Sorry, no progress, but not canceled either.

Capsman already running but dude nothing new. I am full of hope that it will continue to be developed, at the moment too much on the need to combine in order to adapt it to current needs.

Bringing in CapsMan here is kinda sidetrack...what we have been waiting for for years is development of the Dude.
Strange things happen, i.e. probes stops working, labels for links show only Rx[Interface.InbitRate]...no need to say more.
I would pay for the Dude if I could get it up and running as a final and stable snmp tool, rather than waiting and listening to rumors...

What about an open source "lite" version for Linux/Windows and a "supported" pro version to make money?
Public development, control of what goes into the code stays with Mikrotik.
It works for a lot of open source projects. Red Hat Linux is a good example, also Asterisk by Digium...

To have a proffesional licence as you said it is a good option.

What about an open source "lite" version for Linux/Windows and a "supported" pro version to make money?
Public development, control of what goes into the code stays with Mikrotik.
It works for a lot of open source projects. Red Hat Linux is a good example, also Asterisk by Digium...

+1, I agree with this, it give an incentive to develop The Dude

i dont' think so

Why not?

Mikrotik says the Dude is a "besides"-project that they work on when they have time and which they cannot prioritize.
It is obvious they won't get any time either, and therefore cannot do this in favour of other revenue-generating activity.
If they could have an income from the Dude as well, I believe it would be easier to invest dev time in it.

Many people have offered Mikrotik money for The Dude as a supported products they provide. They declined. The Dude has and always will be an unsupported product from Mikrotik.

If you need a proper NMS you should look elsewhere.

The last time The Dude was updated (which is still a beta release) was over 2 years ago.

Many people have offered Mikrotik money for The Dude as a supported products they provide. They declined. The Dude has and always will be an unsupported product from Mikrotik.

If you need a proper NMS you should look elsewhere.

The last time The Dude was updated (which is still a beta release) was over 2 years ago.

Mikrotik too change their decisions from time to time, and we rarely know before they announce a product.
Stopping the Dude at the Beta stage is not very wise.
At least they could give it a few rc cycles to strip off most of the bugs, and then release a final version "as is" without adding more features.

Which NMS tool do you recommend?
I'd like to deploy a server based tool with SNMP logging, storage and graphing.
.

I am having my own custom NMS developed as the ones available currnently dont meet my needs.

Offhand i can suggest Observium, take a look and see if it meets your needs. You can also use PRTG to an extent.

Any news related to The Dude? There are new and interesting things The Dude is standing there. May know something about the amendments to webserv? I have a CF card with ROS and does not want to put The Dude on Windows.

Unfortunately the response from Mikrotik is exactly the same as the last 3(5?) years and I don't believe anything at all will happen
This despite the massive demand from customers, obvious business benefits and ignoring the substantial negative perception it creates towards Mikrotik as a whole.

If ever there was a move beyond the "maybe, in the future, sometime, wishy washy statements" they should really consider a crowd-sourcing funding model for the next stable release version as a once-off project. Set funding targets based on bug fixes, features, improvements etc. This funding model will cover any development costs and could be used again for TheDude v5 etc.

(If Mikrotik does not want to have to worry about the significant extra cost of providing support, besides a forum, that is fine with me and does not have to change.)

Please Mikrotik, help us out!

I am sure that mikrotik has enough money to develop dude further. But they just don't want to or can't do it. There was no clear explanation from mikrotik why they have such attitude. Maybe we all would stop crying here if we knew the reason.

I am having my own custom NMS developed as the ones available currnently dont meet my needs.

Did you look at NetXMS? In which regards did it not meet your needs?

Yes, that is what we figured out. After intensive search we found CloudView NMS: http://www.cloudviewnms.com . Seems like it can monitor/manage practically anything: SNMP, sysLog, TL1, services, web access, servers.... Remote Web web access via cool HTML-5 web interface from any browser including mobile devices

We ended up using CloudView NMS http://www.cloudviewnms.com . Seems like it can monitor/manage practically anything:
SNMP, sysLog, TL1, services, web access, servers...). They discovered our network put in maps, Secure multi-user web access with configurable profiles . Alarms forwarding via many protocols (including e-mail) Scalable to thousands of nodes and unlikee others they do not charge as your network grows. They added our device and some other features by our request. Their manual is not that good, but their e-mail support is very enthusiastic. BTW - it runs on any platform and can be accessed remotely from any browser via rich HTML-5 interface

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE_oIIIwWl0 The Dude Abides.

Any information? Something new about The Dude?

Guys I'll send you a bag of pot, maybe even a new rug, just don't let The Dude die!

They already did it.

It is a great software, good think'ed need a few thing's to moove on .unix and repair a few bug's. If it is so vital make the Dude commercial and all the problem's are gone, or let source to develop in public. As far as i know , even the big money software didn't come so close to monitoring soft lie u.
ps. think the pot is over, need a new charge P:

Hi guys,

we need the stable monitoring system. With old Dude can we not to get it.
is the Dude dead or not yet?

Like I said, Mikrotik is pretty close to something, but for some unknown reason they just dropped it as an incomplete product years ago.
Why not at least strip off the bugs in the existing version?

I hereby invite Normis to give some quality information on this. The situation now is that we are all sitting around a little unsatisified!

I would love it if Mikrotik would either update The Dude or release another similar product. The main issue for me with the Dude is how slow the map become when adding more than just a few devices.

That and the email component won't work with authentication, which basically nixes email alerts.

I think it's missed opportunity for MikroTik, and a big one. There is something special about Dude. In a way, it's similar to WinBox.

I fell in love with WinBox the first time I've seen it. RouterBoards are nice, RouterOS is otherwise not bad either, but the key feature, for me at least, is WinBox. It's THE way how interactive administration should work, simple, powerful and intuitive. No web administration can ever come close to that, and it includes WebFig, which is kind of nice, compared to other web administrations, but compared to WinBox... no thanks.

Dude did not get as far as WinBox did, I could come up with lots of complaints and improvements, but it was on the right path, before it ended in current zombie state. From time to time I've been looking into replacements, because it doesn't seem there's going to be new Dude any time soon (if ever) and I could use some improvements (IPv6 for example). But the results so far... Last time I spent half an afternoon trying to get stupid CPU graph from one product. I even resorted to reading a manual and still failed in the end. With such competition, Dude could be very successful.

The Dude Abides...

3 years with no progress, no feedback.

Anyone reading this thread should find another NMS system.

This thread should be locked.

Talked to the MT guys in Prague and I understood that the Dude programmer is no longer around and they are somewhat reluctant to dig into the code...
According to John they are still considering to make another version, so I don't think all hope is out.

That's the point. They are considering...

I think why they didn't launch this fo free open source, will be more progress. This this damn program are great to windows. IT will be another ideea to migrate to unix systems. One setup for life
Waiting and hope.

I appreciate very much The Dude, and I want to say "thank you" to Mikotik for that very usefully and easy to implement free NMS.

The dude has helped me to offer to my clients a added value and better service.

Actually I have 10+ virtualized instances of The dude on win xp virtual machines monitoring remote networks.

Thank you Mikrotik

It´s very sad to see this great piece of software become an abandonware. Every one that comes into my office and see my 50 ´´ screen dude monitoring more than 400 devices in real time becomes impressed with the application. I even integrate it with Google Translator voices, so when a specific tower becomes offline it speaks out loud what is happening. Mikrotik you have done something that even big players like Cisco, HP and Junniper haven´t. You created the ultimate NMS system and release it to the community, i understand that it could be dificult and expensive to mantain it for years and years. Please, just release the source code so we can finish it...

Dear Network Engineers,

i am creating a online petition to ask mikrotik to release The Dude Source code. If you never heard of it, the dude is a extremely powerfull application to manage SNMP networks and devices of any brand. If you like the idea please sign the petition and help us spread the idea.

https://www.change.org/p/mikrotik-relea ... m=copylink

I have signed the petition even I do not think it could be better way than this forum.
Keeping fingers crossed.

I have signed the petition even I do not think it could be better way than this forum.
Keeping fingers crossed.

Thanks Jarda. It´s our last hope... Please, help spread it on social media.

I have signed the petition even I do not think it could be better way than this forum.
Keeping fingers crossed.

Thanks Jarda. It´s our last hope... Please, help spread it on social media.

Last hope: May be you can manage MT with Mimosa or Cambium Cloud Managment SW soon

I have signed the petition even I do not think it could be better way than this forum.
Keeping fingers crossed.

Thanks Jarda. It´s our last hope... Please, help spread it on social media.

Last hope: May be you can manage MT with Mimosa or Cambium Cloud Managment SW soon

Nice. Let us know when it´s ready.

Thanks Jarda. It´s our last hope... Please, help spread it on social media.

Sorry. I am not using "social" media at all. They are too dangerous and my privacy is very precious for me. I am not willing to disclose my personal life to everyone or start to be a subject of business.