Hi Guys

We have recently testing WDS

Intel 2.4GHz Rackmount PC running OS 2.9.11

2 x 100mW Atheros (Disabled, replaced with SR5 two days ago)

2 x SR5 Atheros each MiniPCI radio in it's own one way PCi adaptor

2 x V.P. Sector antenna, each are seperated vertically by 1M with 6M run of coax 3/4 Heliax

We are testing the change over to WDS and also PPPoE to a radius on the Wireless Router LAN.

We are noticing the are a lot of disconnections in the Wirleless Reg Table on the AP running WDS. This also reflects in the PPPoE connections dropping off the raduis server. Also showing the same affect on normal station clients.

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How ever, this is the interesting part we have seen before, the clients (WDS Slave Mode) wireless reg table is saying the link has been up for over 1d. This shows on all customers.
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This makes me think something to do with the AP end.


**** We have sent a support file to MikroTik. ****


Here are the Wireless Configurations


2 x SR5 AP Bridge WDS on Sector Antenna OS 2.9.11

/ interface vlan
add name="vlan10-corebridge" mtu=1496 arp=enabled vlan-id=10 interface=corebridge comment="" disabled=no
add name="vlan120-corebridge" mtu=1496 arp=enabled vlan-id=120 interface=corebridge comment="" disabled=no
add name="vlan110-corebridge" mtu=1496 arp=enabled vlan-id=110 interface=corebridge comment="" disabled=no
add name="vlan156-server" mtu=1496 arp=enabled vlan-id=156 interface="old broken ethernet" comment="" disabled=no
add name="vlan156-corebridge" mtu=1496 arp=enabled vlan-id=1 interface=corebridge comment="" disabled=no
add name="vlan10-daves" mtu=1496 arp=enabled vlan-id=10 interface=bbDaves comment="" disabled=no
add name="vlan181-PtP-svrwks" mtu=1496 arp=enabled vlan-id=181 interface=corebridge comment="" disabled=no

/ interface ethernet
set "old broken ethernet" name="old broken ethernet" mtu=1500 mac-address=00:0A:48:0D:52:7C arp=enabled \
disable-running-check=yes auto-negotiation=yes full-duplex=yes cable-settings=default speed=100Mbps comment="" \
disabled=no
set serverlan name="serverlan" mtu=1500 mac-address=00:05:1C:19:FB:15 arp=enabled disable-running-check=yes \
auto-negotiation=yes full-duplex=yes cable-settings=default speed=100Mbps comment="" disabled=no

/ interface wireless
set bbDaves name="bbdaves" mtu=1500 mac-address=00:90:96:43:B2:60 arp=enabled disable-running-check=no \
radio-name="00909643B260" mode=ap-bridge ssid="bb06" area="" frequency-mode=manual-txpower country=no_country_set \
antenna-gain=0 frequency=5800 band=5ghz-turbo scan-list=default rate-set=default \
supported-rates-b=1Mbps,2Mbps,5.5Mbps,11Mbps supported-rates-a/g=6Mbps,9Mbps,12Mbps,18Mbps,24Mbps,36Mbps,48Mbps,54Mbps \
basic-rates-b=1Mbps basic-rates-a/g=6Mbps max-station-count=2007 ack-timeout=dynamic tx-power-mode=default \
noise-floor-threshold=default periodic-calibration=default burst-time=disabled dfs-mode=none antenna-mode=ant-a \
wds-mode=disabled wds-default-bridge=none wds-ignore-ssid=no update-stats-interval=disabled default-authentication=yes \
default-forwarding=yes default-ap-tx-limit=0 default-client-tx-limit=0 hide-ssid=no security-profile=default \
disconnect-timeout=3s on-fail-retry-time=100ms preamble-mode=both compression=no allow-sharedkey=no comment="" \
disabled=no
set Hornby name="Hornby" mtu=1500 mac-address=00:01:B4:02:0B:10 arp=enabled disable-running-check=no \
radio-name="maHornbyRadio" mode=ap-bridge ssid="ma1" area="" frequency-mode=superchannel country=no_country_set \
antenna-gain=0 frequency=5240 band=5ghz scan-list=default rate-set=configured supported-rates-a/g=6Mbps \
basic-rates-a/g=6Mbps max-station-count=2007 ack-timeout=dynamic tx-power-mode=manual-table \
noise-floor-threshold=default periodic-calibration=default burst-time=disabled dfs-mode=none antenna-mode=ant-a \
wds-mode=dynamic wds-default-bridge=corebridge wds-ignore-ssid=no update-stats-interval=disabled \
default-authentication=yes default-forwarding=yes default-ap-tx-limit=0 default-client-tx-limit=0 hide-ssid=no \
security-profile=default disconnect-timeout=3s on-fail-retry-time=100ms preamble-mode=both compression=no \
allow-sharedkey=no comment="" disabled=no
set Linwood name="Linwood" mtu=1500 mac-address=00:01:B4:02:0B:1A arp=enabled disable-running-check=no \
radio-name="maLinwoodRadio" mode=ap-bridge ssid="maLinwood1" area="" frequency-mode=superchannel \
country=no_country_set antenna-gain=0 frequency=5200 band=5ghz scan-list=default rate-set=default \
supported-rates-a/g=6Mbps basic-rates-a/g=6Mbps max-station-count=2007 ack-timeout=dynamic tx-power-mode=manual-table \
noise-floor-threshold=default periodic-calibration=default burst-time=disabled dfs-mode=none antenna-mode=ant-a \
wds-mode=dynamic wds-default-bridge=corebridge wds-ignore-ssid=no update-stats-interval=disabled \
default-authentication=yes default-forwarding=yes default-ap-tx-limit=0 default-client-tx-limit=0 hide-ssid=no \
security-profile=default disconnect-timeout=3s on-fail-retry-time=100ms preamble-mode=both compression=no \
allow-sharedkey=no comment="" disabled=no

/ interface wireless nstreme
set bbDaves enable-nstreme=no enable-polling=no framer-policy=none framer-limit=3200
set Hornby enable-nstreme=no enable-polling=yes framer-policy=none framer-limit=3200
set Linwood enable-nstreme=no enable-polling=yes framer-policy=none framer-limit=3200


/ interface wireless manual-tx-power-table
set bbDaves manual-tx-powers=1Mbps:17,2Mbps:17,5.5Mbps:17,11Mbps:17,6Mbps:17,9Mbps:17,12Mbps:17,18Mbps:17,24Mbps:17\
,36Mbps:17,48Mbps:17,54Mbps:17
set Hornby manual-tx-powers=1Mbps:26,2Mbps:26,5.5Mbps:26,11Mbps:26,6Mbps:26,9Mbps:26,12Mbps:26,18Mbps:26,24Mbps:26,36Mbps:2\
4,48Mbps:22,54Mbps:21
set Linwood manual-tx-powers=1Mbps:26,2Mbps:26,5.5Mbps:26,11Mbps:26,6Mbps:26,9Mbps:26,12Mbps:26,18Mbps:26,24Mbps:26,36Mbps:\
24,48Mbps:22,54Mbps:21

/ interface wireless security-profiles
set default name="default" mode=none wpa-unicast-ciphers="" wpa-group-ciphers="" pre-shared-key="" static-algo-0=none \
static-key-0="" static-algo-1=none static-key-1="" static-algo-2=none static-key-2="" static-algo-3=none \
static-key-3="" static-transmit-key=key-0 static-sta-private-algo=none static-sta-private-key="" \
radius-mac-authentication=no group-key-update=5m

/ interface wireless wds

/ interface bridge
add name="vlan10-Management" mtu=1500 arp=enabled stp=yes priority=32600 ageing-time=5m forward-delay=15s \
garbage-collection-interval=5s hello-time=2s max-message-age=20s comment="" disabled=no
add name="vlan120-PPPoE" mtu=1500 arp=enabled stp=yes priority=32600 ageing-time=5m forward-delay=15s \
garbage-collection-interval=5s hello-time=2s max-message-age=20s comment="" disabled=no
add name="corebridge" mtu=1500 arp=enabled stp=yes priority=32600 ageing-time=5m forward-delay=15s \
garbage-collection-interval=5s hello-time=2s max-message-age=20s comment="" disabled=no
add name="vlan110-ServerLan" mtu=1500 arp=enabled stp=yes priority=32600 ageing-time=5m forward-delay=15s \
garbage-collection-interval=5s hello-time=2s max-message-age=20s comment="" disabled=no
add name="vlan156-yobbo" mtu=1500 arp=enabled stp=yes priority=32700 ageing-time=5m forward-delay=15s \
garbage-collection-interval=5s hello-time=2s max-message-age=20s comment="" disabled=no
add name="loopback" mtu=1500 arp=enabled stp=no priority=32768 ageing-time=5m forward-delay=15s \
garbage-collection-interval=5s hello-time=2s max-message-age=20s comment="" disabled=no

/ interface bridge port
add interface=vlan10-corebridge bridge=vlan10-Management priority=128 path-cost=10 comment="" disabled=no
add interface=vlan120-corebridge bridge=vlan120-PPPoE priority=128 path-cost=10 comment="" disabled=no
add interface=vlan110-corebridge bridge=vlan110-ServerLan priority=128 path-cost=10 comment="" disabled=no
add interface=vlan156-server bridge=vlan156-yobbo priority=128 path-cost=10 comment="" disabled=yes
add interface=vlan156-corebridge bridge=vlan156-yobbo priority=128 path-cost=10 comment="" disabled=yes
add interface=vlan10-daves bridge=vlan10-Management priority=128 path-cost=10 comment="" disabled=no
add interface=serverlan bridge=vlan110-ServerLan priority=128 path-cost=10 comment="" disabled=no
add interface="old broken ethernet" bridge=vlan10-Management priority=128 path-cost=10 comment="" disabled=no

/ interface l2tp-server server
set enabled=no max-mtu=1460 max-mru=1460 authentication=pap,chap,mschap1,mschap2 default-profile=default-encryption

/ interface pppoe-server server
add service-name="#########" interface=vlan120-PPPoE max-mtu=1476 max-mru=1476 authentication=pap keepalive-timeout=10 \
one-session-per-host=yes max-sessions=0 default-profile=unlimited disabled=no

/ interface pptp-server server
set enabled=no max-mtu=1460 max-mru=1460 authentication=mschap1,mschap2 keepalive-timeout=30 \
default-profile=default-encryption


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Client - SR5 WDS Slave RIC/522 OS 2.9.11 (An very good antenna and radio intergration with excellant gain on the RF)


/ interface wireless
set Uplink name="Uplink" mtu=1500 mac-address=00:15:6D:10:11:84 arp=enabled disable-running-check=no radio-name="Brighton" \
mode=wds-slave ssid="maLinwood1" area="" frequency-mode=manual-txpower country=no_country_set antenna-gain=0 \
frequency=5260 band=5ghz scan-list=default rate-set=configured supported-rates-a/g=6Mbps basic-rates-a/g=6Mbps \
max-station-count=2007 ack-timeout=dynamic tx-power-mode=default noise-floor-threshold=default \
periodic-calibration=default burst-time=disabled dfs-mode=none antenna-mode=ant-a wds-mode=dynamic \
wds-default-bridge=corebridge wds-ignore-ssid=no update-stats-interval=disabled default-authentication=yes \
default-forwarding=yes default-ap-tx-limit=0 default-client-tx-limit=0 hide-ssid=no security-profile=default \
disconnect-timeout=3s on-fail-retry-time=100ms preamble-mode=both compression=no allow-sharedkey=no comment="" \
disabled=no
/ interface wireless nstreme
set Uplink enable-nstreme=no enable-polling=yes framer-policy=none framer-limit=3200
/ interface wireless manual-tx-power-table
set Uplink manual-tx-powers=1Mbps:17,2Mbps:17,5.5Mbps:17,11Mbps:17,6Mbps:17,9Mbps:17,12Mbps:17,18Mbps:17,24Mbps:17,36Mbps:1\
7,48Mbps:17,54Mbps:17
/ interface wireless security-profiles
set default name="default" mode=none wpa-unicast-ciphers="" wpa-group-ciphers="" pre-shared-key="" static-algo-0=none \
static-key-0="" static-algo-1=none static-key-1="" static-algo-2=none static-key-2="" static-algo-3=none \
static-key-3="" static-transmit-key=key-0 static-sta-private-algo=none static-sta-private-key="" \
radius-mac-authentication=no group-key-update=5m
add name="mac on" mode=none wpa-unicast-ciphers=tkip wpa-group-ciphers=tkip pre-shared-key="" static-algo-0=none \
static-key-0="" static-algo-1=none static-key-1="" static-algo-2=none static-key-2="" static-algo-3=none \
static-key-3="" static-transmit-key=key-0 static-sta-private-algo=none static-sta-private-key="" \
radius-mac-authentication=yes group-key-update=5m
/ interface wireless wds
/ interface wireless align
set frame-size=300 active-mode=yes receive-all=no filter-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 ssid-all=no frames-per-second=25
/ interface wireless access-list
/ interface wireless snooper
set multiple-channels=yes channel-time=200ms receive-errors=no
/ interface wireless sniffer
set multiple-channels=no channel-time=200ms only-headers=no receive-errors=no memory-limit=10 file-name="" file-limit=10 \
streaming-enabled=no streaming-server=0.0.0.0 streaming-max-rate=0


I do not recall seeing this problem noted in the forum before, is there anyone else out there that has had the some problem. Very confusing for us.

There is also a lot of deauth comming through in the log, have see this was undate in the OS in Ver 2.9.8.


21:30:13 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (6 events suppressed)
21:30:18 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (9 events suppressed)
21:30:23 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (9 events suppressed)
21:30:25 wireless,info Linwood: disconnected 00:15:6D:10:11:84, no beacons
21:30:29 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (9 events suppressed)
21:30:31 wireless,info Linwood: 00:15:6D:10:11:84 connected, is AP, wants WDS
21:30:33 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (6 events suppressed)
21:30:39 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (11 events suppressed)
21:30:43 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (5 events suppressed)
21:30:48 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (9 events suppressed)
21:30:53 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (10 events suppressed)
21:30:58 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (16 events suppressed)
21:31:03 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (10 events suppressed)
21:31:08 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (11 events suppressed)
21:31:13 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (8 events suppressed)
21:31:19 wireless,info Linwood: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (10 events suppressed)

Is this to be ignored?


Please let me know if there is any other congifuration settings you would like to see.

I look forward to anyones comments.

at my system it's the same...
i use as the other wds station a wrt54gs for tests.. everything is running without encryption.. and i have the same messages...
21:30:31 wireless,info mikrotik: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX connected, is AP, wants WDS
21:30:33 wireless,info mikrotik: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (6 events suppressed)
on and on and on..
miktrotik says connected but wrt is not connected ... (also ping etc between is not possible)
So whom i have to believe ? Wrt or rb ? And .. is there a solution.. ?


Ciao Gerd

Has anyone else had this problem and solved it?

Any one from MikroTik that can comment on any tests we can do?

We are changing from the client and testing signal uptimes in station-wds/wds-client/bridge modes.

Because of contuining problems with WDS, we are scrapping our 2.4GHz motherboard etc and installing indervidual RB500 for each WLAN and sector.

There has been no help from anyone in the forum or MikroTik.

We are not very happy at the moment, trying to work out why our Clients RF signals are dropping out at the AP end and not at the Client end. It is not good trying to work out what is going wrong for 16-18 hrs a day

NOTE: If this does not work, then we will not be using MikroTik for WDS in the future.

at my system it's the same...
i use as the other wds station a wrt54gs for tests.. everything is running without encryption.. and i have the same messages...
21:30:31 wireless,info mikrotik: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX connected, is AP, wants WDS
21:30:33 wireless,info mikrotik: data from unknown device 00:01:B4:02:0B:21, sent deauth (6 events suppressed)
on and on and on..
miktrotik says connected but wrt is not connected ... (also ping etc between is not possible)
So whom i have to believe ? Wrt or rb ? And .. is there a solution.. ?


Ciao Gerd

Same problem!

can not make WDS connection with D-Link DWL-2100AP to the mikrotik 2.9.6 with Dlink-G520 on board, D-Link DWL-900ap+ and DWL-1000AP+ connects to the mikrotik using WDS perfectly, but 2100 not at all...
i try mikrotik 2.9.12 and another 2100, and 7100, same results...some times it connects for 1-2 minutes, then disconnect again, in registration list connection present Tx/Rx Rate 54Mbps/1Mbps, in statistic menu Tx/Rx Packets (some number)/0, all Tx-(some number)/Rx-0...
I try D-Link-G510 & AG530 in mikrotik, resulth the same...

Still having problems with WDS.

What signal strenghts do you guys get with WDS signals?

We have from high 60 to 82dB receive signals. The AP end seams to allways loose the RF connection but the client end stays up. Has anyone else had this issue and been able to resolve?

What are the other options for us if we wanted to bridge wireless and LAN while running PPPoE over a VLANs.

Look forward to your comments.

Matt

What firmware are you using with the WRT devices? I have a lot of WDS links between Routerboards and WRT's and they are rock stable. I have RSSI's spreading from 60-85.. I use the "mini" version of DD-WRT firmware, disable all unnessesary services like routing and 802.1x and set it up. Never breaks down..

Regards

Henrik Pedersen

//Matt

Try to change your manual Tx power setting to default or to 21.
and put Periodic calibration to Enabled.
And update to 2.9.13 then u use the new Wierless drivers.

//Rickard

After many weeks of testing with customers in the middle of the night, I belive we have resolved the issue of disconnecting customers on WDS.

RSTP-Test package enabled at both ends, AP-Bridge with WDS and customers in Station-WDS mode.

Yes, happy customers

Are you saying that enabling the RSTP package solved your problem?

We were having some odd problems with SR2 cards until we upgraded to 2.9.12+. Looks like there were some major changes to the driver in that release. I think that is where the wireless-test package became the production package. I'm sure alot had to do with that upgrade.

Yes, I belive so, we have tried so many things over the past months and it seems to have solved our WDS disconnection problems.

Because of the new RSTP-test package, our wireless signals at our AP-Bridge now say up as long as the client end shows. Read my earlier posts.

Before, the RF signal at the AP-bridge would drop and reconnect and this would disable the PPPoE connection and it would take 30-60 sec for the VLAN to reconnect for the PPPoE authentication to function.

The system is now functioning with happy customers.

What settings are you using for RSTP?
Everytime we install/enable the RSTP-test package, it kills our bridge for some reason and the unit(s) becomes unreachable.
Have not been able to figure out the reason yet...

SMA

wds-mode=dynamic wds-default-bridge=corebridge wds-default-cost=100 wds-cost-range=50-150 wds-ignore-ssid=no

You must create a bridge (corebridge) and asign your WLAN and Ether ports to it.

Hope this helps

Matt

we have that.
it is a fully functioning system, WDS just like your example, that all we change is to install/enable rstp-test package and it goes to heck...

sma

we have that.
it is a fully functioning system, WDS just like your example, that all we change is to install/enable rstp-test package and it goes to heck...

sma

please email to support@mikrotik.com about your problem and include the support output file which is made when the unit isn't working correctly.