Perhaps I could loan some hardware to Mikrotik so they can investigate further? I'm sure this problem is going to affect everyone in the UK with an FTTC modem.I wouldn't be surprised if Mikrotik have not been able to reproduce the problem reliably
I had a look at the screenshots of the web interface, there aren't any settings relating to port speed.It would be useful to know if an unlocked ECI V-2FUb/I Rev.B
Thanks for the info Nick. We tried port 10 this afternoon and in our case it doesn't help at all.We have worked around this problem with our customers by them using port 10 on the RB2011 set at autonegotiate they get 100 Mbps full duplex to the BT supplied FTTC modems
Bazzer[Ticket#2013012366000781] RB2011 ethernet port autosync problems
The thread is about some particular problems which have been reported on the RB2011. The symptoms you mention actually sound quite different. Note that on Cisco ports if it does not auto-negotiate it will speed sense with some potential problem results - e.g. if you force a Mikrotik port to 100 Mb full duplex the Cisco port will speed sense to 100 Mb but adopt half duplex which will kill the throughput on that link.Have the same problem with RB600, RB411 and also X86 computer with RouterOS. And also many different HW variants on the other end from enterprise cisco switch to few SOHO switches do the same. Even if I turned off autonegotiation at all on both ends of the wire RouterOS was reporting wrong speed on status page after some time and ethernet link had about 80% packet loss. Turning ON and again OFF the autonegotiation solves the problem for unpredictible amount of time. From that i guess it is the SW problem we are now using version 4.10 so I will try to upgrade and let we see. What versions are you experiencing this with?
That would be very nice, it's quite the irritating problem!I cannot comment much about it, but there is a progress regarding this problem and it should be fixed soon.
It is not a small bug, but a major rewrite is needed. If we would add it to v5, it would make it exactly the same stability as v6Can you please make a fix in 5.x ???
I don't want to run BETA firmware to fix a small bug that should be repaired with the normal/stable firmware...
You need to set both devices to 100/full, because you disable the autonogotiation process when setting the port to 100/full.i've met problem like this - with RB493G vs RB411AH.
411AH set to auto, while 493G also - connect via 100mbps/Full
if i set 493G to 100fix/full, they won't negotiate.
It all depends on the "other" device. If you set a Mikrotik port to 100 Mb FD and connect it to Cisco gear the Cisco gear will speed sense the 100 Mb but will select half duplex. The general rule is either use auto-neg or manually set *both* ends.maybe i'm wrong but if one device is set to forced 100fdx - the other is auto, they should link. don't they?
Do not expect too much.V6.0 released today
Does anyone know if there is a fix for this included?
Quite right. I tried it last night with no joy.Do not expect too much.
Go back to the first page of this topic, it does mention Cisco in several posts by different people.Wow, I'm assuming from this that no one is looking into this issue. Nowhere in this thread does it mention Cisco. It clearly states ECI and Huawei devices. Mikrotik have confirmed that they ordered equipment to do testing with way back in March.
It's worth noting that this also affects the RB951G
We still don't have your specific unit available for testing. it is not something that we can easily get. Are you willing to send one to us?I stand corrected, some people did say they were having similar issues with cisco devices. However, this thread was started because of issues with the ECI device and later proved to also affect Huawei units. The fact that there has been a fix for Cisco is of little use to us. So I ask again, is this being looked at? When can we expect a fix? Do I give up hope and return the unit?
Are you sure both sides are configured for auto-negotiation?After reading the thread I have checked my configuration.
I connect one 2011 to one 912 and it is showing 100 half duplex. I will try tomorrow different cables.
What version of the ROS is providing firmware 3.0.7? What ethernet issues are being fixed by it and on what hardware?lorenzesz, upgrade firmware to 3.07 on RB912, it solves ethernet issues.
If you are a that large of customer then the MT will fix that issue in no time. Just contact the support.Oh no indeed
I thought they'd used remote access into your system to test the modem?
Were there no discussions/conclusions at the time??
This issue affects every VDSL installation in the UK at the moment
Remote access was granted but support could not glean any valuable info as it required downing the gateway port which they obviously couldn't do remotely. The best they could do was have me send a support file to them, which I did. That was the last I heard, despite asking for an update since. That was over a month ago.I thought they'd used remote access into your system to test the modem?
Were there no discussions/conclusions at the time??
As long it is a non-issue for the MT you can not do nothing much. Wait for the warranty to expire and you get nothing even if they accept it as a HW fault.What is the "official" word from Mikrotik on this problem? I don't really need my RB2011UAS to connect at Gigabit speeds but it would be nice if it did!
What happens if it's a hardware issue? Do we all get replacement Routerboards?
[admin@vigilance] > /log print
jan/02/1970 00:00:14 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: initializing...
jan/02/1970 00:00:16 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: dialing...
jan/02/1970 00:00:17 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: terminating... - disconnected
jan/02/1970 00:00:17 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: disconnected
jan/02/1970 00:00:17 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: initializing...
jan/02/1970 00:00:17 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: dialing...
jan/02/1970 00:00:18 interface,info ether1-gateway link up (speed
100M, full duplex)
jan/02/1970 00:00:19 interface,info ether1-gateway link down
jan/02/1970 00:00:19 interface,info ether2-master-local link up (speed
1000M, full duplex)
jan/02/1970 00:00:20 interface,info ether1-gateway link up (speed
100M, full duplex)
jan/02/1970 00:00:20 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: terminating... - disconnected
jan/02/1970 00:00:20 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: disconnected
jan/02/1970 00:00:20 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: initializing...
jan/02/1970 00:00:20 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: dialing...
jan/02/1970 00:00:21 interface,info ether1-gateway link down
jan/02/1970 00:00:23 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: terminating... - disconnected
jan/02/1970 00:00:23 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: disconnected
jan/02/1970 00:00:24 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: initializing...
jan/02/1970 00:00:24 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: dialing...
jan/02/1970 00:00:25 interface,info ether1-gateway link up (speed
100M, full duplex)
jan/02/1970 00:00:26 interface,info ether1-gateway link down
jan/02/1970 00:00:27 interface,info ether1-gateway link up (speed
100M, full duplex)
jan/02/1970 00:00:27 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: terminating... - disconnected
jan/02/1970 00:00:27 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: disconnected
jan/02/1970 00:00:28 interface,info ether1-gateway link down
jan/02/1970 00:00:28 wireless,info A4:C3:61:69:48:F0@wlan1: connected
jan/02/1970 00:00:28 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: initializing...
jan/02/1970 00:00:28 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: dialing...
jan/02/1970 00:00:30 interface,info ether1-gateway link up (speed 10M,
full duplex)
jan/02/1970 00:00:31 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: authenticated
jan/02/1970 00:00:31 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: authenticated
jan/02/1970 00:00:31 pppoe,ppp,info AAISP: connected
23:55:21 system,info router rebooted
23:56:09 wireless,info 00:1C:BF:4D:B2:74@wlan1: connected
23:56:26 system,info,account user admin logged in from 192.168.1.100 via ssh
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So I guess that's that.Hello,
Recently, the RB2011 and RB951G Gigabit port connection has been tested with this
particular device and a hardware related incompatibly was found.
This problem is addressed and fixed for all new RB2011 and RB951G, unfortunately,
it is not possible for old ones.
Sorry for inconvenience this have caused.
Regards,
Janis Becs
Recently, the RB2011 and RB951G Gigabit port connection has been tested with this
particular device and a hardware related incompatibly was found.
This problem is addressed and fixed for all new RB2011 and RB951G, unfortunately,
it is not possible for old ones.
Sorry for inconvenience this have caused.
It is not that simple an answer. It does indicate a hardware issue and not just a software one. What is the fix? We need closer explanation of what is that all about, because there are similar and somewhat related ethernet issues with the MT gear (the ethernet port flapping for instance) and that is not just a mere inconvenience.Just received this from Mikrotik support:
So I guess that's that.Hello,
Recently, the RB2011 and RB951G Gigabit port connection has been tested with this
particular device and a hardware related incompatibly was found.
This problem is addressed and fixed for all new RB2011 and RB951G, unfortunately,
it is not possible for old ones.
Sorry for inconvenience this have caused.
Regards,
Janis Becs
It's more than mere inconvenience! It's turned my 40/10 FTTC into 8/1 at best.... that is not just a mere inconvenience.
I'm utterly astounded at the lack of support/customer service from Mikrotik. I bought this unit way back in February and it has been gathering dust ever since due to it being completely useless with BT Infinity. I've hung on this long for a fix to be issued, only to be told that not only will there not be a customer installable fix, but that I have no right to ask for a replacement unit which does have the fix. Which ever way you cut it, the device I bought in good faith has been proved to be not fit for purpose and I'll be damned if I'm buying another one.Using RB2011 it is still possible to establish 100Mbit link with BT modem by using
ether6-ether10 ports.
This incompatibility is not caused by defect in any way, therefore warranty does
not cover it.
If the incompatibility is not a defect, then why is it fixed in later hardware revisions (per the message that some of us received above).Using RB2011 it is still possible to establish 100Mbit link with BT modem by using
ether6-ether10 ports.
This incompatibility is not caused by defect in any way, therefore warranty does
not cover it.
My thoughts exactly.If the incompatibility is not a defect, then why is it fixed in later hardware revisions (per the message that some of us received above).
I queried options for return. This is what I got. No news yet for 951G owners but I don't hold out much hope.I'm utterly astounded at the lack of support/customer service from Mikrotik. I bought this unit way back in February and it has been gathering dust ever since due to it being completely useless with BT Infinity. I've hung on this long for a fix to be issued, only to be told that not only will there not be a customer installable fix, but that I have no right to ask for a replacement unit which does have the fix. Which ever way you cut it, the device I bought in good faith has been proved to be not fit for purpose and I'll be damned if I'm buying another one.Using RB2011 it is still possible to establish 100Mbit link with BT modem by using
ether6-ether10 ports.
This incompatibility is not caused by defect in any way, therefore warranty does
not cover it.
First time and now last time Mikrotik purchaser.
Thanks Nick. As it happens I did buy it from you guys. You'll have to forgive me, but what's RMA?If you bought it from us, you can RMA it.
Nick.
Return merchandise authorizationYou'll have to forgive me, but what's RMA?
Done. Thanks. Soooo I guess the next question is...if I return this one, and order another one, how do I know I won't be sent another duff one?
Ah that's not good. Just my luck to have an ECI modem. So I guess my option is to replace the modem or sack off the RB951 all together.However they will not work properly with the ECI. They end up with 10Mbps full duplex
(Bit of an old thread - but)Just received this from Mikrotik support:
So I guess that's that.Hello,
Recently, the RB2011 and RB951G Gigabit port connection has been tested with this
particular device and a hardware related incompatibly was found.
This problem is addressed and fixed for all new RB2011 and RB951G, unfortunately,
it is not possible for old ones.
Sorry for inconvenience this have caused.
Regards,
Janis Becs
I would also love to know this. I've got a RB2011UiAS-RM that Mikrotik was unwilling to replace which will not autonegotiate with all of my devices, and I've been holding off replacing it because I have no way to tell if a new one will be fixed or not.(Bit of an old thread - but)Just received this from Mikrotik support:
So I guess that's that.Hello,
Recently, the RB2011 and RB951G Gigabit port connection has been tested with this
particular device and a hardware related incompatibly was found.
This problem is addressed and fixed for all new RB2011 and RB951G, unfortunately,
it is not possible for old ones.
Sorry for inconvenience this have caused.
Regards,
Janis Becs
Anyone know how to determine the hardware "new versions" of the RB/2011UAS-2HnD-IN ?
I've just fallen into this one - the BT Openreach modem and the Mikrotik bouncing around and negiotiating 10mbit on the gig ports.
So I reconfigured to use ether10 (10/100) without issue.
Bit of a pain when the pppoe wizard doesn't automatically add a "input drop" for the pppoe-out1 device tho - leaves the whole thing open to the internet!