MikroTik

Hi

If it's not a highly classified data...

Could someone from MT give a little more info on the CCR 1009 ?

What version of the Tile GX 8009 is used ? 10C, 10CE, 12C, 12 CE ?

How much RAM will be onboard ?

When approximately will it be launched ? (in Q's is fine

Will it be cheaper or more expensive than let's say CCR 1016 ?

THX

Why should it be more expensive with less power!? Is your car getting cheaper when you buy it with a bigger engine?

hmmm...while it's true that 1009 has a "smaller" CPU...it has one SFP and one SFP+ port (and thus 10G option)

So that's why I'm asking where it will be positioned price-wise

PS: and don't get me started with your car comparison...

+ 1 for which CPU is used
+ 1 for how many RAM
+ 1 for the Qs, but please followed by the year please!

And perhaps on top a prize range, where this device will be pointed in.

Hopefully they have taken the CPU variant with the high speed encryption engine called MiCA
and up to a maximum of 8 GB or 16 GB ECC RAM would be fine!

Together with the RG953GS-5HnT as an wifi AP it would be a really fine set up for my home network I think.

2GB RAM soldered
Q4/2013

2GB RAM soldered
Q4/2013

Thanks for jumping in and sharing some more detailed and precise technical specs and informations
about the CCR1009 and on top the quarter + the year!

So it's pretty much the more powerful / more flexible successor to the 1100 series.
Looks good to me! I had hoped for 4 GB RAM, but of course MT has to take care not to cannibalize its own market for the higher grade models.

CPU: 10CE

CPU: 10CE

Wooohoo, also it comes with the MiCA engine!
+1 from me there fore

Good work and well done MikroTik!

Thank you very much for the info, Normis !

CPU: 10CE

That's it?
http://www.tilera.com/sites/default/fil ... 036-02.pdf

CPU: 10CE

That's it?
http://www.tilera.com/sites/default/fil ... 036-02.pdf

Yes TLR4-00980CG-10CE

It's Q4 since yesterday - where's the 1009?

Hopefully I'll live until times in which CCR with 2 SFP+ and 24 SFP becomes available (I can also live with 4 SFP+ and 16 SFP :>)

@ofca:

What would you do with that many ports on a router!?

Connect business end-users to MPLS cloud and remove switches and vlans from the network.

If Mikrotik adds 6RD support I will buy one for at home without any hesitation

@ofca:

What would you do with that many ports on a router!?

Nobody is asking you if you will buy a router with 4 LAN Ports and a Switch with 10 Ports like the
combination I have many times seen, (like this here):
- Netgear FVS336Gv2
- Netgear GS110T

All is even fine and no one asks for this set up, but if we will buy a MikroTik CCR-1009 router for home usage
and this router comes with 10 LAN Ports, the whole world wants to know why? So what is so special on this
router? Only one device, much power , enough ports, ROS inside and hopefully in the near future all is running
smooth with the ROS version on Tilera´s Tile Gx, but if we buy a no one is accepting this in see more and more.

For an ISP it doesn't make much sense to use a core router for switching. You rather keep the task for each device as specific as possible and use systems for what they're best at. The more tasks you offload on a single device the more probable side effects become and of course they make bug tracking a lot more complex as e.g. you can't just replace switches without also having to change a significant part of your CCR's config.

I don't need switches in backbone. I'm fine with wirespeed forwarding of MPLS traffic by CCR. To make this happen all I need is a device with sufficient number of SFP ports for customers and SFP+ ports for backbone ring.

I could be wrong, but given the 9-core CPU, I'm guessing that MikroTik is planning to position this price-wise to replace the one remaining RB1000-series PPC router that they still sell: the RB1100AHx2. If I'm correct, I just have one request for MikroTik:

Please don't.

At the very least, please don't discontinue the RB1100AHx2 until after you have a working MetaROUTER implementation on the Tile CPU architecture. (Once that happens and you have a CCR w/ Tile CPU priced between $300-400 USD, then feel free to discontinue it at that point. )

-- Nathan

Metarouter is not supported on RB1100AHx2, too.

Speaking of discontinuing the 1000 range . Do the CCR's have IPSEC acceleration now ?
Been ages since I've worked on a CCR . Gonna be a tough sell for me if they don't as most of our endpoints require encryption.

I could be wrong, but given the 9-core CPU, I'm guessing that MikroTik is planning to position this price-wise to replace the one remaining RB1000-series PPC router that they still sell: the RB1100AHx2.

Perhaps you are right but in any way I think it is not the best option or way for them.
But if I see they have hired 20 employees in 1 year, I really think Mr. Tully got some grey hair!
For sure it must also be able to handle the whole works load for the Mikrotik employees and there for
I think some RBs will be discontinued in the near future, but trust my word I really think it is the false way
for MikroTik to do so. I would love to see rich assortment of many different routers for any kind of purposes.

RB433 series, RB435G, RB450G, RB493G, RB800, RB1200, RB1100AHx2

RB2011 series, RB2012 series, RB2013 series,......

CCR series 9 Core, 16 Core, 36 Core, 72 Core, 100 Core with modules and on each module is a 36 Core,.....
CCR traffic shapers, CCR queue only handlers, CCR like the Handlink ISS7000

So you will have a entry level, a mid ranged level and a professional Level of products and for many different kind
of needs and also budgets! Ok this is only my poor opinion.

Metarouter is not supported on RB1100AHx2, too.

It may not be "supported", but it is possible; with Tile it isn't even possible since no MetaROUTER code has ever been written for it.

I will be posting instructions on how to enable MetaROUTER on the (A)Hx2 later today to the Virtualization forum.

-- Nathan

does anyone know how large will the main board for CCR1009 will be?
is it larger then ccr2011?

does anyone know how large will the main board for CCR1009 will be?
is it larger then ccr2011?

Board is similar in size to the CRS (see picture in another topic), but bigger than RB2011. The estimated release date is still within Q4 as promised.

Will there be a CRS desktop-sized case (or smaller) for the CCR1009?

Will there be a CRS desktop-sized case (or smaller) for the CCR1009?

And maybe fanless?

Will there be a CRS desktop-sized case (or smaller) for the CCR1009?

And maybe fanless?

That are mostly expected "features": desktop-size case and fanless board.
MikroTik team could You answer taht questions please?

I have the same question. It is fanless?

You can actually see the CCR1009 in our MUM presentation:
http://www.mikrotik.com/download/share/us13.pdf

As you see, it is a rackmountable device. Even if it has less cores, it is still a massive performance CCR series device, and it will require active cooling. Those CPUs are very powerful and they do emit a certain amount of heat.

CCR1009 should not be confused with a small RB450G replacement.

CCR1009 should not be confused with a small RB450G replacement.

Thank You Normis.
So - are You planning to introduce any RG 450G with all strong points of that board?: Small case, five Ethernet ports, DC-jakc and PoE, voltage monitor. We need ALL of them, but faster CPU.

CCR1009 should not be confused with a small RB450G replacement.

Thank You Normis.
So - are You planning to introduce any RG 450G with all strong points of that board?: Small case, five Ethernet ports, DC-jakc and PoE, voltage monitor. We need ALL of them, but faster CPU.

Yes, we are working on something like that. No more info.

It's 4th quarter 2013r. Is there any pending date of release CCR1009?

WHEN? WHEN? WHEN?
It will be available (CCR1009) at distributors?

It's 4th quarter 2013r. Is there any pending date of release CCR1009?

My guess is december 2013.

MikroTik Team - any news about availability of this product (CCR1009)???

YES we all NEED -> CCR 1009 <-

it will be first CCR that most people can buy !
and it be definitely most popular model of all CCR (i think so)

The estimated release date is still within Q4 as promised.

Still it is true that promise?

The estimated release date is still within Q4 as promised.

Still it is true that promise?

I think if that is no answer - there is nothing to confirm.
Next answer from MikroTik will be that "it will be available at first quarter of 2014" or ..... no answer.

I think if that is no answer - there is nothing to confirm.
Next answer from MikroTik will be that "it will be available at first quarter of 2014" or ..... no answer.

So, as I written...
No answer from MT team - mean that You should NOT expect it (CCR1009) at this Year.
Maybe......first quarter of 2014 or maybe...

Board is similar in size to the CRS (see picture in another topic), but bigger than RB2011. The estimated release date is still within Q4 as promised.

Today is last day of Q4 2013.
Maybe I have missuderstand Your answer...
So we have to wait to Q4 2014 Year ?? ... for CCR1009

is so so sad(
because even after the announcement, it take at least another month product availability in the local market (

Possible date will be end of march in Singapore after equipment has been certified by IDA.

Possible date will be end of march in Singapore after equipment has been certified by IDA.

it is not good so long wait (

Dear MikroTik Team. Is there any chance to buy it (CCR1009) at first quarter of this Year (2014)?

Dear MikroTik Team. Is there any chance to buy it (CCR1009) at first quarter of this Year (2014)?

????

Dear MikroTik Team. Is there any chance to buy it (CCR1009) at first quarter of this Year (2014)?

????

WE ALL want BAY CCR1009 but tired wait

you announce it in last quarter in 2013 !!!!!

and we disappointed that we don't see it on routerboard.com not saying see it on local sale !

MikroTik Team - coul You answer the question please: WHEN it will be available:CCR1009 ???

We have a large MikroTik event coming up, so expect all news to happen there

So your going to re-announce the ccr1009?

So your going to re-announce the ccr1009?

Among other things. This time CCR1009 is much closer to availability

So your going to re-announce the ccr1009?

Among other things. This time CCR1009 is much closer to availability

I really want to get my hands on one! Have any demo models?

So your going to re-announce the ccr1009?

Among other things. This time CCR1009 is much closer to availability

I really want to get my hands on one! Have any demo models?

Yes we plan to bring some demo devices.

Yes we plan to bring some demo devices.

I can't make mum this is our busy time now that its warming up here. Lots of installs. We could beta test one in a real world environment for you

New date for those who haven't seen in Venice MUM 2014 thread: April...

WHEN? When CCR1009 will be available??

Again: April (according to normis' linked post)

Again: April (according to normis' linked post)

Did he (normis) told anything over the launching year?
It is not that I want to be ungentle, but on the 1th April
the most peoples inside many countries are kidding their peoples a little bit
and so I was asking my self if this could be also a small joke perhaps?

But if not the CCR1009 is very welcome, it should be the best actual
choice to set up a really powerful router for smallest, small and little
companies or power home users and a lot of peoples would be nasty
to get their hands on this product.

1th April !

There wasn't mentioned a year explicitly... But one says CCR1009 will be available "very soon". I hope this means April 2014.

Did you pick up that CCR1009 will have dual power supply (see http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/IT14/it14.pdf)? This makes this device even more interesting.

This is another request for a desktop version of the CCR1009. Fanless would also be great, but not a necessity.

Do CCR 1009 have hardware switch chip ?

Update.. I was wrong.. See comment from normis below.

Update.. I was wrong.. See comment from normis below.

Me too!

First 4 ports are connected to a switch chip, rest are each directly connected to CPU

Oh how disappointing. I was hoping that all ports are connected directly to CPU, just like any other CCR...

I think it's handy that some ports can be grouped together as a switch group and thus not put any load on the CPU as bridging would. It kind of depends what the switch chip would be capable of in regards to VLAN's and such, but judging from the RB2011 for instance it's at least possible to do it right.

It also depends how big the interlink between the switch chip and the CPU is internally, but most often this is limited to 1Gbit (a 5 port Gbit switch in reality with 4 ports external and 1 port internal). Hoping to see a block diagram soon. Actually, judging from the TILE-Gx8009 spec sheet, it has up to twelve 1000Mbit ports and/or 2 10Gbps XAUI ports + at least 10 PCIe 2.0 lanes.

Depending on configuration, it's possible that that the 4 Gigabit Ethernet ports are directly connected to the CPU, the SFP+ slot uses one of the 10Gbit XAUI ports and the internal switch is a 10Gbit internal uplink and 5x external Gigabit Ethernet ports model (including the SFP slot). This would impose no bandwith limitations if used as routed ports but would give you the advantage of being able to use them as switched ports, offloading the CPU.

Alternatively the switch or a 10Gbit port could be connected using some form of PCIe interface of which the processor also has a multitude available. Using the available 10 lanes of PCIe 2.0 bandwith that would result in 10x512MB/sec = 5120MB/sec up and down (full-duplex). More then enough to use for the switch or a 10Gbit SFP+ port, etc. That would still leave another 2 PCIe 2.0 lanes unused also the spec sheet lists that everything else such as UART, USB, etc. is separately connected.

Only time will tell, hopefully they will release a block diagram before it's purchasable so we can check out how they configured it before buying!

Personally I'm wondering what the expected NAT throughput would be. Sadly, I seem unable to find any real performance numbers for the other Cloud Routers thus I'm unable to make a guestimated number either. Does anybody have any numbers or tests on it? I'm hoping it will be able to do 1Gbps of NAT without too much trouble, making it a great router for newer fiber connections.

Quindor, thanks for very technical post. It would be great if those first 4 switched ports share 10G connection. That way, if You don't want to use switch, 1000m * 4 ports will go to the cpu without bottleneck. Only time will tell, and it would be great that MTK guys post block diagram...

Can the CCR 1009 10Gbit SFP+ port accept a standard SFP module?
Do CCR 1009 has NAT acceleration?

Can the CCR 1009 10Gbit SFP+ port accept a standard SFP module?
Do CCR 1009 has NAT acceleration?

Some SFP+ slots can accept SFP modules. And some SFP modules will work in an SFP+ slot and some will not. It's kind of a vague issue and it highly depends on the combination of the specific SFP+ slot and SFP module combination if it will work or not. Best is to try, electrically it should not pose a problem.

As you can read 2 posts upward, I also wonder about NAT performance. But from what I understand there is no hardware accelerated NAT above that the processor is able to process. There is no NAT block in the processor like there is a separate encryption block inside of it. Still, if there is a multi-threaded NAT engine performance should be excellent because of the 9 cores.

normis
It will have dual PSU or not?
+1 for Dual PSU.

normis
It will have dual PSU or not?
+1 for Dual PSU.

From all the available information available, it is going to have a dual PSU. Also see http://download2.mikrotik.com/news55.pdf page 4 to see the "Dual PSU" listed.

Well it's April, any more news on availability?

Well it's April, any more news on availability?

We all want to know...is there any chance to buy it at april...?

The CCR1009 doesn't appear in Mikrotik Product Catalog 2014 Q2
But in January u sad: "CCR1009 will be available around end of the first or beginning of the second quarter."
Will be launched on Q2 or not?

I hope the price will be around uby edge router pro(2GB DDR3, 4GB NAND)340$.

Don't get me wrong, I like mikrotik and routerboard products a lot and they have great support.

That being said releasing products "on time" isn't one of their strong suits. If they say Q1 2014 first, expect second half of Q2 or Q3. Getting hardware from design to 1st concept to engineering approval to production to production approval, then inventory and distribution takes a lot. Sometimes the process gets delayed for some time because of waiting on thing like enclosures, raw board production or working out bugs in the assembly process. It happens.

you can ask your distributor tomorrow

you can ask your distributor tomorrow

I love the subtlety

you can ask your distributor tomorrow

I love the subtlety

and be send for some next month (

and STILL NO 1009 on routerboard.com (((

Our supplier says: 30.4.2014

Our supplier says: 30.4.2014

My supplier says they have no idea on release or price. Did yours give any pricing?

My supplier stop replying after ask for the price of both models for end-user.

2x IEC C14 power jacks AC 110/220V, PoE
in 12-58V, 802.3af/at compliant

Cool! What about redundancy? Can you connect both IEC and PoE and have them failover?

I saw some prices online: 350-400 euro.

2x IEC C14 power jacks AC 110/220V, PoE
in 12-58V, 802.3af/at compliant

Cool! What about redundancy? Can you connect both IEC and PoE and have them failover?

I saw some prices online: 350-400 euro.

It's in the brochure:

CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+ = 272,13 € netto
CCR1009-8G-1S = 238,68 € netto

It's in the brochure:

It says nothing about PoE as backup.

It's in the brochure:

It says nothing about PoE as backup.

Sorry didn't understand what you meant. You want 3 power sources? Yes, it's possible, but you need to use less than 24V for PoE. 22V or something like that. PoE and PSU can't have equal voltage, and PSU gives 24V

Sorry didn't understand what you meant. You want 3 power sources? Yes, it's possible, but you need to use less than 24V for PoE. 22V or something like that. PoE and PSU can't have equal voltage, and PSU gives 24V

That's great! I'd like to use 48v PoE and 1 or 2 IEC connections. Will PoE then be the primary source for power and IEC the backup?

any further info about switch chip, used for first four ports ? so we're can dig datasheets and understand possible caps/performance.
is any chance to get model without SFP cage(one 10Gb copper port instead will be welcomed, howver), single-powered and probably with dedicated PHY's at all ports(ie w/o swtich chip)?
ie as low-cost, high-thoughput premises CPE for SOHO deployment. ie to fit between rb850gx2 and initial 1009 model in terms of feats/cost and probably, size(no rackmountability meaning for premises in 80% cases)>

highest voltage source will be primary

1Gb/sec NAT is it possible for 1009?

1Gb/sec NAT is it possible for 1009?

I would hope, the 1100AHx2 can

Just place an order for Cloud Core Router 1009-8G-1S-1S+. 699SGD. Will arrive in 1st week of May 2014.

balticnetworks.com says:

Thank you for your inquiry! The CCR1009 is expected to arrive around the 2nd half of May, and I would be happy to place a pre-order for you once we have activated the product for ordering. Please let me know if you have any questions or if I can be of further assistance.

ispsupplies.com says:

We are ordering them on our next shipment so we should have them in roughly 2-4 weeks. The list price for the devices are $425.00 for the CCR1009-8G-1S and $495.00 for the CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+.

now on web:
http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S
http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1Splus

Is there any information yet on performance? I'm considering buying either 1100AHx2 or CCR1009 but im not sure which one would be best for my situation: 500/500M Fiber internet with PPPoE/NAT for 1 VLAN. LAN connections to 3 switches / 2 servers directly. I think both could do this but which one would have "the most" to spare?

I know these posts aren't always seen as positive....but..... I have ordered a CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+ and fedEX reports they should drop it of coming Monday!

When it gets here I will open a topic so people can ask questions, get photo's, etc.

I know these posts aren't always seen as positive....but..... I have ordered a CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+ and fedEX reports they should drop it of coming Monday!

When it gets here I will open a topic so people can ask questions, get photo's, etc.

keep us posted!

Does anybody know if the CCR 1009 will use same version of ROS (Tile v6.12) that is currently on the RouterOS website and is running on other CCR routers? Or, will they be releasing a new version that supports the CCR 1009 hardware? Thanks!

Does anybody know if the CCR 1009 will use same version of ROS (Tile v6.12) that is currently on the RouterOS website and is running on other CCR routers? Or, will they are releasing a new version that supports the CCR 1009 hardware? Thanks!

it will run same Tile packages that are available on our download page. However, to actually have 6.12 you will need to upgrade it.

Anyone looking for more information. I received mine and have made a special topic for it with information and some tests!

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=84475

i change RB2011iLS-IN to CCR1009-8G-1S
I visually see the difference in speed of opening each page in browser and folders on FTP!
Amazing!!!
Speed on the brink of possibilities!

p.s.
it be cool see RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN with some 3-core's version of TLR4-00980CG-10CE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!