Page 1 of 1

mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:07 pm
by Bluebottle
Does anyone have recommendations for an 802.11n mpcie card that is compatible with routerboards? I plan on setting up dual band access points for a customer, and would like to use an RB912UAG for this purpose. I don't see any mpcie cards on the compatability list, and don't want to randomly take my chance.

The Intel 633ANHMW has Linux support, so does that mean RouterOS will see it? Or would there be a better card? (I like the 3x3 aspect of this card).

Thanks!

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:12 pm
by onnoossendrijver
I would recommend a AR9380 card. You can find them for about 12 euros on Ebay. Just look for AR9380.
Most cards are 'Apple' cards, but they are just reference design Atheros AR5BXB112 cards.

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:09 am
by Kreacher
Hello,

Q4 - 2013 - MikroTik RIIE-2HnD for RB912 - 100% supported in ROS - AR9580 Chipset - 800 MW - 2GHz
Q4 - 2013 - MikroTik RIIE-HPND for RB912 - 100% supported in ROS - AR9580 Chipset - 1000 MW - 2 + 5GHz

COMPEX WLE350NX-7B - Atheros AR9590 - mini PCIe card - 450 mbit - 802.11a/b/g/n - 3x3 MIMO
COMPEX WLE300NX 6B - Atheros AR9390 - mini PCIe card - 450 mbit - 802.11a/b/g/n - 3x3 MIMO
- higher throughput

Ubiquiti SR71-E - Atheros AR9220 - mini PCIe card - 300 mbit - 802.11a/b/g/n 2x only
- Security: 802.11i with AES-CCM & TKIP Encryption, 802.1x, 64/128/152bit WEP
- DFS SUPPORT

It depends also on the wished functions you will have.

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:09 pm
by Bluebottle
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into getting something along these lines to test with. I'm also looking forward to the Mikrotik branded cards. For features, right now it's just for in-office APs, so nothing really fancy. Going forward, though, I'll probably want to use something similar for PTP bridging, etc.

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:24 am
by Ivoshiee
The PCIe module from the Apple AirPort Express (AR9380 AR5BXB112) is reported as working with the ROS, but I've yet to find any receiver sensitivity data. Does anyone have those numbers?

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:26 pm
by Ivoshiee
I just received a PCI-E Apple AirPort Express (AR9380 AR5BXB112) card, but ROS is not accepting it.
All I see, under the ROS v.6.5/v5.26, a PCI device 00:00.0 "Atheros Communications Inc." "unknown device (rev:1)".
Vendor ID: 0x168c
Device ID: 0xabcd

Are there any tricks involved to get it working on a RB912UAG-5HPnD?

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:42 pm
by Kreacher
Are there any tricks involved to get it working on a RB912UAG-5HPnD?
Please try out this:

Please go into the System Routerboard USB section and choose the type Mini-pcie and
then the mini PCIe wireless card should be recognized.

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:31 pm
by Ivoshiee
Are there any tricks involved to get it working on a RB912UAG-5HPnD?
Please try out this:

Please go into the System Routerboard USB section and choose the type Mini-pcie and
then the mini PCIe wireless card should be recognized.
Thanks. I tried that, but there is no changes to be observed out of it.

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:00 pm
by Ivoshiee
According to pci ids database that device id "abcd" for that given device is wrong because the BIOS has not been initialized it properly:
https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/168c/abcd
The chip itself is AR9388-AL 1A:
Image

It is supposed to be supported by the latest ROS releases (http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... 73#p392473), but apparently not at all.

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:10 pm
by voron
According to pci ids database that device id "abcd" for that given device is wrong because the BIOS has not been initialized it properly:
https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/168c/abcd
The chip itself is AR9388-AL 1A:
It is supposed to be supported by the latest ROS releases (http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... 73#p392473), but apparently not at all.
I got the same "Apple" card, marked as AR5BXB112, it has AR9388-AL 1A and is detected by ROS as unknown device (rev: 1). My ROS is 6.7.
Anyone has a solution?
ar9388.png

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:17 am
by voron
After a couple days waiting and 1-2 reboots I had noted card working :)
AR9388.png

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:35 pm
by onnoossendrijver
Weird, I have absolutely no problems with the detection of these cards.

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:50 pm
by tournet
After 1-2 reboots I got this card working :)
AR9388.png
I encounter the same problem, I wonder why yours device ID auto change but mine can't, the device ID allways is 168C:ABCD after reboot and reboot, the RouterOS can't detect this hardware. I install the same minipci-e wireless card on another mainboard, this time it was 168C:0030, and work with RouterOS.

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:13 pm
by voron
I install the same minipci-e wireless card on another mainboard, this time it was 168C:0030, and work with RouterOS.
So, you had just inserted card to another m-tik board and it was detected correctly? What if you return this card to previous board?

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:39 pm
by tournet
I install the same minipci-e wireless card on another mainboard, this time it was 168C:0030, and work with RouterOS.
So, you had just inserted card to another m-tik board and it was detected correctly? What if you return this card to previous board?
when I return this card to previous board(detect as 168C:ABCD), It will still detect as 168c:ABCD.
BTW, I found when I use this wifi adapter on my notebook coumputer, It was detected as 168C:ABCD with driver version 10.0.0.268 under windows7 x64, windows device manager tells "Qualcomm Atheros AR938X wireless Network Adapter", but when I change the drivers version to 10.0.0.255, after reboot, Sometimes it was detected as 168C:0030, windows device manager tells "Qualcomm Atheros Ospray wireless Network Adapter".

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:36 pm
by czolo
I found a solution for this problem: Card is not recognized properly and device-id is 0xabcd
It looks like the problem is with the boot-time, when the card is initialized.
/system routerboard settings set init-delay=2
After that all is OK.

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:45 am
by InoX
Who cares anymore?

Re: mpcie 802.11n cards for Routerboard

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:02 pm
by czolo
Who cares anymore?
This problem still exists. I have it yestarday with a couple of RB912 with external cards, and find a way to repair that.

Your answer is simply rude..