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Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:14 pm

Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

1.MikroTik RB260GS
2.Mikrotik RB750

Both are same price..If buy Mikrotik RB750, i will set all port bridge...
My bandwidth is 100Mbps connection... all kind of traffic... able to handle 80 devices traffic from PC or mobile phone.. it is a students network, they can do all kind of things including download p2p, torrent..

ether 1 to core switches
ether 2 to ether 5 bridge to 4 Wireless APs..each AP will serve 20 all kind of devices...
 
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Re: Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:47 pm

On the RB750 you can set port speed and comments per interface, two things that help us immensely in a production environment. So we just use RB750 units as switches in a few remote locations. It also gives us tools to bandwidth test to/from to check the wireless radio connections and such.

So basically you pay a little more to have a much better interface/OS than the RB260 units.
 
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Re: Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:06 pm

Of note: if you use the RB750/RB750UP, the switch chip only includes ether2-5 (not ether1), so you'll have to use the CPU-based bridging. If you only use standard bridging with Fast Path on, you'll probably achieve close to 100Mbps aggregate bandwidth in that sort of configuration. But if you start adding firewall rules or other processing for the traffic moving through the bridge, your performance will drop off fairly quickly.

If you absolutely need full 1Gbps wire-speed switching between all five ports, you need to go with the RB260GS or the RB750G/RB750GL. If you're using the RB750G or GL, you'll need to configure the ports to use the switch chip, rather than setting up a bridge, in order to get full wire-speed switching. If you use the bridge, you'll be limited to a total of 1Gbps traffic, as that's the limit from the switch chip to the CPU (and, again, the CPU's actual processing limit is quite a bit lower if you're doing any firewall/inspection of traffic).
 
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Re: Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:47 pm

On the RB750, you would be better off to put your uplink on any port other than ether1. That way the switch chip would handle most of the traffic.

Of course, if we are talking RB750UP, the POE aspects may confine what port you use for the uplink since no POE-out on ether1.
 
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Re: Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:19 pm

Of note: if you use the RB750/RB750UP, the switch chip only includes ether2-5 (not ether1), so you'll have to use the CPU-based bridging. If you only use standard bridging with Fast Path on, you'll probably achieve close to 100Mbps aggregate bandwidth in that sort of configuration. But if you start adding firewall rules or other processing for the traffic moving through the bridge, your performance will drop off fairly quickly.

If you absolutely need full 1Gbps wire-speed switching between all five ports, you need to go with the RB260GS or the RB750G/RB750GL. If you're using the RB750G or GL, you'll need to configure the ports to use the switch chip, rather than setting up a bridge, in order to get full wire-speed switching. If you use the bridge, you'll be limited to a total of 1Gbps traffic, as that's the limit from the switch chip to the CPU (and, again, the CPU's actual processing limit is quite a bit lower if you're doing any firewall/inspection of traffic).
this is my script i set on RB450G..I am going to use same script to set inside RB750...
I just want it as switches function. No firewall rules implement.

I don't understand this "the switch chip only includes ether2-5 (not ether1), so you'll have to use the CPU-based bridging"? What this mean?

[admin@MikroTik] > export compact
# jan/02/1970 02:57:36 by RouterOS 6.2
# software id = LT28-V20B
#
/interface bridge
add l2mtu=1520 name=bridge1 protocol-mode=rstp
/ip hotspot user profile
set [ find default=yes ] idle-timeout=none keepalive-timeout=2m \
mac-cookie-timeout=3d
/port
set 0 name=serial0
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether1
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether2
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether3
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether4
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether5
 
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Re: Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:21 pm

On the RB750, you would be better off to put your uplink on any port other than ether1. That way the switch chip would handle most of the traffic.

Of course, if we are talking RB750UP, the POE aspects may confine what port you use for the uplink since no POE-out on ether1.
What mean about this "On the RB750, you would be better off to put your uplink on any port other than ether1. "?

You mean ether 1 better don't make it link to core switches?
I should use ether 2-5 either one link to core switches?
ether 1 should link to Access point?
 
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Re: Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:22 pm

On the RB750 you can set port speed and comments per interface, two things that help us immensely in a production environment. So we just use RB750 units as switches in a few remote locations. It also gives us tools to bandwidth test to/from to check the wireless radio connections and such.

So basically you pay a little more to have a much better interface/OS than the RB260 units.
Okay.. Thank you for your advise.
 
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Re: Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:41 pm

Your settings make bridging not switching. If you want to switch ports you should set one of ports as master to other ports.
 
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Re: Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:14 pm

Your settings make bridging not switching. If you want to switch ports you should set one of ports as master to other ports.
I should link my master port to core switches?
 
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Re: Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:50 pm

have you read this?
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=40584
if not, you should...

Anyway, RB750 has eth1 that cannot be put into switch (so only eth2-5 can be switched.)

So, put eth2 as master port to eth3, eth4 and eth5, then make bridge1 and put eth1 and eth2 into this bridge. Use eth1 for the device that would be used the least - as it is not switched and traffic goes thru cpu.

I did not catched how you meant "link my master port to core switches?". What core switches are you talking about?
 
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Re: Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:47 pm

have you read this?
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=40584
if not, you should...

Anyway, RB750 has eth1 that cannot be put into switch (so only eth2-5 can be switched.)

So, put eth2 as master port to eth3, eth4 and eth5, then make bridge1 and put eth1 and eth2 into this bridge. Use eth1 for the device that would be used the least - as it is not switched and traffic goes thru cpu.

I did not catched how you meant "link my master port to core switches?". What core switches are you talking about?
I need use ether 1 as POE for the RB750.

My core switches is POE switches, so i will link it to RB750 ether 1..
 
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Re: Only need switches function, which is more suitable?

Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:16 pm

It will work. You can also solder wires on the board between the ports to use poe on whatever else port or you can use common passive poe extractor and plug it into power inlet. Then you do not need to use eth1. But try even to use eth1, it will work well.

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